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Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:08 pm
by Baldy
So I missed all the ho-har in the other Fly -V thread. I have no idea Say What is going on?

This is supposedly the biggest, best bike forum in Australia :roll: Yet we cant mention Mr Whites name or the potential imploding of a team alot of us were really looking forward to following.

Im pretty sure I have seen other people in the sport being talked about and ridiculed. Take Mr Landis, speculating about him and his motives seems to be fair game? For whatever reason that is not "deemed as defamation"?

So, whats the real story? Why the overeaction in this case? And dont try on the if you dont like the rules you can go elsewhere !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !!. Yes it is your bat and ball and you can do whatever you like with it, just dont treat the members like your petulant children.

I am pissed off with Mr White's attitude, the way he has been using the free publicity generated in part by fans like us. I get the feeling he has been counting on it to attract the $$$.

If you want to lock or moderate this thread, please have the decency to let us know where we can talk about this issue.

Re: Pegasus and Matt White

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:12 pm
by ft_critical
Baldy wrote:Pegasus and Matt White
Damn, now Matt White is involved too. This story just gets bigger :roll:

But it is awesome that well informed people continue to want to discuss this issue. :lol:

Re: Pegasus and Matt White

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:15 pm
by Christine Tham
Who is "Matt White"?

Re: Pegasus and Matt White

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:20 pm
by ft_critical
Christine Tham wrote:Who is "Matt White"?
Not sure myself, isn't he DS at Pegasus Chipotle?

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:09 pm
by Baldy
:lol: :lol: Yeah im a dolt.....Matt....Chris.....you can see how I slipped up right :oops: :roll:

I'll take your dig in jest, I have no doubt I know less about the ins and outs of the sport than you but I have a rough idea who Cris and Matt are, even if I cant spit out the right name :mrgreen:

Re: Pegasus and Matt White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:23 am
by Aushiker
Baldy wrote:So, whats the real story? Why the overeaction in this case? And dont try on the if you dont like the rules you can go elsewhere b*****t. Yes it is your bat and ball and you can do whatever you like with it, just dont treat the members like your petulant children.
:roll:

Andrew

Re: Pegasus and Matt White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:05 am
by The Womble
My article posting didnt cause the problem did it?
I only wanna know that Robbie Mc will be riding in 2011 at this point

Re: Pegasus and Matt White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:35 am
by The Womble
Again no comment from Chris White
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/cycli ... 5971168777
How do you feel today Chris? "No comment except to say I got paid :mrgreen: "

Re: Pegasus and Matt White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:15 am
by hannos
Baldy wrote:So I missed all the ho-har in the other Fly -V thread. I have no idea Say What is going on?

So, whats the real story? Why the overeaction in this case? And dont try on the if you dont like the rules you can go elsewhere b*****t. Yes it is your bat and ball and you can do whatever you like with it, just dont treat the members like your petulant children.

Well if you don't know what happened in the other thread, then you have no idea why it was locked and thus your comment about being treated like a petulant child makes you look...


Petulant?


wah wah. a thread I know nothing about got locked. It shouldnt have. wah wah.. you over-reacted wah wah.

Re: Pegasus and Matt White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:24 pm
by goudgey
Looks like Fly V have failed to gain registration as a Continental team, which I understood they held last season.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/12/ ... ers_153023

So not only were Pegasus unsuccessful in attaining ProTeam or Pro Continental status, they were also unsuccessful in maintaining Fly V's position as a Continental team.....unless I'm missing something!

cheers
Mark

Re: Pegasus and Matt White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:36 pm
by The Womble
White elephant!

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:59 pm
by JV911
Baldy wrote::lol: :lol: Yeah im a dolt.....Matt....Chris.....you can see how I slipped up right :oops: :roll:
Fail :lol:

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:59 pm
by BigVin
EPIC fail if it's true - pretty sad tho that a country like Australia can't get someone like Frank Lowy of Lindsay Fox on board.
It's really unprofessional if it does in fact turn up to go belly up and unlike anything thing else in Australia's sporting endevours as far as setting up a new team etc.
As soon as I saw George Gillett's name as an 'interested party' it was cause for concern.
Anyone who follows football will know what him and Tom Hicks did to Liverpool FC, eventually they were forced to sell the club to a new venture (NESV).

Re: Pegasus and Matt White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:42 pm
by Baldy
hannos wrote:
Baldy wrote:So I missed all the ho-har in the other Fly -V thread. I have no idea Say What is going on?

So, whats the real story? Why the overeaction in this case? And dont try on the if you dont like the rules you can go elsewhere b*****t. Yes it is your bat and ball and you can do whatever you like with it, just dont treat the members like your petulant children.

Well if you don't know what happened in the other thread, then you have no idea why it was locked and thus your comment about being treated like a petulant child makes you look...


Petulant?


wah wah. a thread I know nothing about got locked. It shouldnt have. wah wah.. you over-reacted wah wah.
Yes, thats right I have no idea why it was locked. Thats what the "I have no idea Say What is going on" bit was about. It was not a thread I knew nothing about, that was an older thread that I have been following since it started.

I saw it on cycling news, so I was annoyed to start with. Then came here to talk about it and found the fly-V thread locked,for no apparent reason[to me] which annoyed me again.

You say I overreacted but maybe I reacted to an overreaction :idea: :mrgreen:

I guess I am as thinned skinned as you are Hannos :wink:

JV: Yep :lol:

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:20 pm
by The Womble
Anyone heard the latest reports in the last hour or so that White has secured the funding needed? State funds but who from?

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:36 pm
by Drunkmonkey
The Womble wrote:Anyone heard the latest reports in the last hour or so that White has secured the funding needed? State funds but who from?
He allegedly has a bank guarantee from 'someone' that is not Australian - and the UCI still have to approve his application.

Does anyone remember the Linda McCartney cycling team?

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:39 pm
by The Womble
Never mind. I found this...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/white-s ... or-pegasus
Heres hoping!

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:40 pm
by The Womble
Drunkmonkey wrote:
The Womble wrote:Anyone heard the latest reports in the last hour or so that White has secured the funding needed? State funds but who from?
He allegedly has a bank guarantee from 'someone' that is not Australian - and the UCI still have to approve his application.

Does anyone remember the Linda McCartney cycling team?
Ummm no :shock:

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:50 pm
by Aushiker
The Womble wrote:Does anyone remember the Linda McCartney cycling team?
Ummm no :shock:[/quote]

Hi

Google is your friend ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_McCa ... acing_Team

Not sure what the point is but.

Andrew

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:02 am
by The Womble
Wow. Sean Yates rode for these guys

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:10 am
by Drunkmonkey
Dropping the riders wages temporarily to make the guarantee easier to pay is very dodgy :shock:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6735/ ... dline.aspx

Less than 2 hours until the deadline - and I think the fat lady is about to start singing.........

Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:10 am
by AUbicycles
Have to agree with Hannos, but let's cut to the chase. Let's keep this thread going and let's keep it informative and fair. If it crosses the line in which I (as admin) maybe approached and held accountable or responsible for comments / accusations made then that's the end of it. That's the short version. The place to discuss mod decisions and forum policy is the forum feedback section.

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:58 am
by Jean
According to Cycling News, White said:

"It was a funding gap that appeared at the last minute and there was a subtraction of support that came at an untimely point in our overall process and it meant that we went from being funded to being unfunded and having inadequate time to deal with it before the December deadline.”

He could at least have the decency to talk in English!

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:11 am
by Drunkmonkey
AUbicycles wrote:Have to agree with Hannos, but let's cut to the chase. Let's keep this thread going and let's keep it informative and fair. If it crosses the line in which I (as admin) maybe approached and held accountable or responsible for comments / accusations made then that's the end of it. That's the short version. The place to discuss mod decisions and forum policy is the forum feedback section.
You should remove this disclaimer from your website then:
Bicycles Network Australia is not responsible or liable for information in the Australian Cycling Forum or any other sections which has contributions from people or companies who are not employed or contracted by Bicycles Network Australia.
You also should remove all comments by members about contador and his steak, Lance etc etc.

Re: Pegasus and Chris White

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:19 am
by Aushiker
Hi

Getting back on topic again :roll: SBS Cycling Central is reporting ,,,
Refuting breaking reports that Pegasus Sports has found a new sponsor to save the company from a seemingly do-or-die situation, CEO Chris White has told Cycling Central that the funds to secure the bank guarantee required by the UCI has been derived from “one of our existing sponsors upping their commitment”.

“[The sponsor] has come from within the family,” said White but cautioned, “This is not the time to put the cherry on top here yet.”
The full blog posting can be found here.

Regards
Andrew