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Contador and this years TdF.

Postby norbs » Mon May 30, 2011 9:54 am

I just added a new poll to my blog asking if Contador should be allowed to ride in this years TdF.

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Would love to hear thoughts from both camps. Been chatting to a couple of cycling mates from either side and I am finding it fascinating.
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Contador and this years TdF.

Postby herzog » Mon May 30, 2011 9:59 am

My view is no. A very poor look for the sport.
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby brentono » Mon May 30, 2011 10:17 am

Poll or No Poll. It makes no difference. :wink:
By the rules, Contador can ride Le Tour De France. :)
If you are going to have rules, then that's how it is.
All the media debate, and personal/ill-informed vile, means FA. :lol:
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby norbs » Mon May 30, 2011 10:19 am

brentono wrote:Poll or No Poll. It makes no difference. :wink:
By the rules, Contador can ride Le Tour De France. :)
If you are going to have rules, then that's how it is.
All the media debate, and personal/ill-informed vile, means FA. :lol:
:mrgreen:



You're right, but you know what they say about opinions. :lol:
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby brentono » Mon May 30, 2011 10:25 am

norbs wrote:

You're right, but you know what they say about opinions. :lol:


You're right, you should rally your "mates" around the campfire,
and chat about it over a Latte. 8) :lol:
No worries.
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby norbs » Mon May 30, 2011 10:27 am

brentono wrote:
norbs wrote:

You're right, but you know what they say about opinions. :lol:


You're right, you should rally your "mates" around the campfire,
and chat about it over a Latte. 8) :lol:
No worries.
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What is this latte you speak of? If it is a camp fire and mates, it has to be beer, or port, or port in beer. :D
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby The Womble » Mon May 30, 2011 10:30 am

norbs wrote:
brentono wrote:Poll or No Poll. It makes no difference. :wink:
By the rules, Contador can ride Le Tour De France. :)
If you are going to have rules, then that's how it is.
All the media debate, and personal/ill-informed vile, means FA. :lol:
:mrgreen:



You're right, but you know what they say about opinions. :lol:

Thats your view I guess. I don't agree with it personally
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Contador and this years TdF.

Postby herzog » Mon May 30, 2011 10:39 am

And by the rules, OJ Simpson is still out there looking for the real killers...
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby roller » Mon May 30, 2011 10:50 am

norbs wrote:I just added a new poll to my blog asking if Contador should be allowed to ride in this years TdF.

http://norbs.tk/bl

Would love to hear thoughts from both camps. Been chatting to a couple of cycling mates from either side and I am finding it fascinating.


but norbs he looks so sweet and innocent in that picture!

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so i voted yes :mrgreen:
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby goneriding » Mon May 30, 2011 11:04 am

Meh! More interesting was hearing "Norbs" mentioned during Saturday night's telecast of the Giro. Could it be you? The other mention was of the Dulwich Hill club.
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby brentono » Mon May 30, 2011 11:44 am

herzog wrote:And by the rules, OJ Simpson is still out there looking for the real killers...


Yes. It was sad about Tommy, but most conceeded at the time it was self-inflicted.
OT i know, but real :wink:
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby norbs » Mon May 30, 2011 11:48 am

goneriding wrote:Meh! More interesting was hearing "Norbs" mentioned during Saturday night's telecast of the Giro. Could it be you? The other mention was of the Dulwich Hill club.



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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby bianchi928 » Mon May 30, 2011 1:04 pm

brentono wrote:Poll or No Poll. It makes no difference. :wink:
By the rules, Contador can ride Le Tour De France. :)
If you are going to have rules, then that's how it is.
All the media debate, and personal/ill-informed vile, means FA. :lol:
:mrgreen:


Can't the ASO (who own the Tour) stop anyone from participating. I thought there was a rule about riders "being under investigation" (ie Puerto in 2006) but Contador is not under investigation with his case judged (not withstanding the UCI and WADA appeals etc).
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby brentono » Mon May 30, 2011 4:41 pm

bianchi928 wrote:
brentono wrote:Poll or No Poll. It makes no difference. :wink:
By the rules, Contador can ride Le Tour De France. :)
If you are going to have rules, then that's how it is.
All the media debate, and personal/ill-informed vile, means FA. :lol:
:mrgreen:


Can't the ASO (who own the Tour) stop anyone from participating. I thought there was a rule about riders "being under investigation" (ie Puerto in 2006) but Contador is not under investigation with his case judged (not withstanding the UCI and WADA appeals etc).


The Teams are invited to participate.
ProTeam Team Saxo Bank-SunGard is one of the Teams, Contador is the Team Leader.
Contador, is Last Year's 2010 Tour De France winner.
Contador, is the 2011 Giro Winner.
Contador, is the best Tour rider in the World, ATM.
Contador, is likely to cleansweep the Grand Tours this Year.
Contador, has gone through proceedings, and is under no suspension.
(regardless of the appeal, which may not succeed, and surprise the media, and many others)
Would the ASO stop Contador from competing (your call) :?:
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby sogood » Mon May 30, 2011 4:59 pm

brentono wrote:Would the ASO stop Contador from competing (your call) :?:

Yes, if Contador's participation has been deemed to be bad publicity, potentially leading to loss in advertising and sponsorship, and generally bad for the business. Time will tell.
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby bianchi928 » Mon May 30, 2011 5:52 pm

I do not know hweter Contador is guilty or not but the ASO have taken action that resulted in the defending champ not being able to race when they banned Astana which included Contador in 2008(even though he rode with Disco in 2007).

I guess it shows they are not afraid to make a call either way.
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby MichaelB » Mon May 30, 2011 8:59 pm

bianchi928 wrote:I do not know hweter Contador is guilty or not but the ASO have taken action that resulted in the defending champ not being able to race when they banned Astana which included Contador in 2008(even though he rode with Disco in 2007).

I guess it shows they are not afraid to make a call either way.


Lets hope they do the same again ......
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby rustychisel » Tue May 31, 2011 10:20 am

Let him ride, but only if they play the Panamanian national anthem on the victory dais. Or the Venezualan, Botswanan, Eskimoan... :wink:
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby brentono » Tue May 31, 2011 11:07 am

bianchi928 wrote:I do not know hweter Contador is guilty or not but the ASO have taken action that resulted in the defending champ not being able to race when they banned Astana which included Contador in 2008(even though he rode with Disco in 2007).

I guess it shows they are not afraid to make a call either way.


ASO banned Astana which included Contador in 2008.
ASO said it made the decision based on the doping scandals of the previous two years.
Contador was cleared of any complicity in those scandals.
I don't believe Team Saxo Bank-SunGard has betrayed the organiser's confidence,
by being involved in any doping scandals.
I cannot believe Saxo Bank-SunGard will be banned, by the ASO, for 2011 TDF-
but FME, anything can happen in Cycling. Even Lance could be guilty. :o
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby bianchi928 » Tue May 31, 2011 1:31 pm

Brento, agree with your comments about Saxo Bank Sungard and acknowledge the situation with Astana was different (although I thought my comments were quite clear that ASO banned Astana, not Contador individually). I was just highlighting the fact that even though Contador is the defending champion, it didn't help Astana.

can anyone confirm what happened with Tom Boonan's participation when Albie Davis went to the presentation then the airport the day after (when with Quick Step). Did ASO not allow him to race (cocaine positive) but he apealed to CAS and got a start??? Maybe the same thing could happen again if Contador doesn't get a spot.

Will be interesting to watch for sure.
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby Chuck » Tue May 31, 2011 2:19 pm

bianchi928 wrote:can anyone confirm what happened with Tom Boonan's participation when Albie Davis went to the presentation then the airport the day after (when with Quick Step). Did ASO not allow him to race (cocaine positive) but he apealed to CAS and got a start??? Maybe the same thing could happen again if Contador doesn't get a spot.



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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby bianchi928 » Tue May 31, 2011 2:25 pm

Thanks Chuck. Great picture by the way, Gotta love Sticks.
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby Chuck » Tue May 31, 2011 3:23 pm

bianchi928 wrote:Thanks Chuck.


Actually you raised a good point about the Boonen case, one that to be honest I didn't know about. Given that, I don't think the ASO can stop Contador from racing the Tour.

bianchi928 wrote:Great picture by the way, Gotta love Sticks.


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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby brentono » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:19 am

Chuck wrote:
bianchi928 wrote:Thanks Chuck.


Actually you raised a good point about the Boonen case, one that to be honest I didn't know about. Given that, I don't think the ASO can stop Contador from racing the Tour.


Correct.
By the rules, Contador can ride Le Tour De France

Thanks Chuck. :)
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Re: Contador and this years TdF.

Postby redcorpsjames » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:57 am

norbs wrote:
goneriding wrote:Meh! More interesting was hearing "Norbs" mentioned during Saturday night's telecast of the Giro. Could it be you? The other mention was of the Dulwich Hill club.



'twas I. norbs and the Culburra beach Cycling Club. membership. 1!

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There is no cycling club in cullburra. i come down to cullburra a fair bit, where do you ride around there? also are there any good mtb tracks around there??
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