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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Welsh Dragon » Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:33 pm

Ok flights booked, we're on our way from WA !
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby bianchi928 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:32 pm

rednaxela wrote:for those going and taking their bike, maybe consider swapping your cassette to a 12-27 at least.
plenty of hills in SA and at times, you will need the 27 cog if only to be able to take on the hills on the easy.
i had a 12-25 on a compact and on one of my climbs from the backroads of strathalbyn, almost busted my knees in the process!


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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby StewieC » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:48 pm

One question - how do people get their bikes down to Adelaide? In particular, has anyone ever dealt with some of the companies that say they specialise in transporting bikes?

I'm interested in exploring this possibility as an alternative to flying, as I've heard that there is the possibility of having your bikes 'bumped' off the flight if there are already a number of bikes on it (and don't know about how you would transport the bike boxes/bikes at the other end apart from hiring a van). Generally prefer not to drive/take the train.

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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby David_G » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:36 pm

StewieC wrote:One question - how do people get their bikes down to Adelaide? In particular, has anyone ever dealt with some of the companies that say they specialise in transporting bikes?

I'm interested in exploring this possibility as an alternative to flying, as I've heard that there is the possibility of having your bikes 'bumped' off the flight if there are already a number of bikes on it (and don't know about how you would transport the bike boxes/bikes at the other end apart from hiring a van). Generally prefer not to drive/take the train.

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Even if you're not keen on them from Sydney you could catch the Indian Pacific train to Adelaide, no way they will bump your bike. I think it's one overnight trip, I went on that to Perth once and the little cabins are fantastic. Dunno the price compared to flying, but it was a great adventure so I was well pleased.
If you're set on catching a plane, maybe you need to check with the airline about guarantees your bike will travel with you.
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Welsh Dragon » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:56 pm

Question re challenge ride which I can't work out from website-if you don't do the whole thing, i.e maybe the 79km one (Mount please to Tanunda), what are the options for getting back to the start area to collect the car, so I don't have to cycle 78km again-ha ha !
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Welsh Dragon » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:58 pm

Oh, I see there is a coach transfer but anyone tell me how my precious bike will be transported (along with everyone else's precious bikes!)
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby bianchi928 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:52 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:Oh, I see there is a coach transfer but anyone tell me how my precious bike will be transported (along with everyone else's precious bikes!)


Totally feel your stress regarding your bike. We are planning the logistics of getting back with our bikes as we speak however I saw this on the TDU site regarding coach transfers -

Bike care
Bikes will be treated with care. Each bike is individually protected using blankets or cardboard. You may be required to help with loading your bike. Depending on available bike storage space, you may be required to remove the front wheel and/or remove the pedals and turn handlebars.

The Santos Tour Down Under, the Event Manager and the Contractor will not accept liability for lost, damaged or stolen luggage or property (including bicycles) during loading/unloading and in transit. It is recommended that participants take out their own insurance coverage.


It's getting close now. The excitement levels are building, especially as they have started announcing who will be riding for the teams :) .
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby RobRollin » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:11 pm

Well I will be coming over with a few other Tassie guys. We should organise another BNA ride as we did last year.

Last year we rode every morning around the Adel hills and intend on doing more riding next.
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Chuck » Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:57 pm

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Should see a different type of rider claim overall honours :twisted:
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby David_G » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:09 pm

RobRollin wrote:Well I will be coming over with a few other Tassie guys. We should organise another BNA ride as we did last year.

Last year we rode every morning around the Adel hills and intend on doing more riding next.


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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Tale » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:11 am

Channel Nine is doing the TV coverage this year (outbid SBS apparently). But the TDU isn't even featured in the "2012 Year of Sport" promo they're running during the cricket. :cry:
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby gdt » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:51 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:Oh, I see there is a coach transfer but anyone tell me how my precious bike will be transported (along with everyone else's precious bikes!)

In previous years:

On an enclosed truck, or on a car-hauling trailer behind the bus. The bike is put in, then carpet underfelt is placed over the top, draping over both sides, then the next bike, ... Some cardboard and ropes are thrown over the top if the bikes are on a trailer.

Best to remove water bottles, cycle computers and the like, as there are always a few of those discovered on the floor of the truck afterwards. You'll want those on the bus anyway.

The bus company have been doing it for years and do all of the BikeSA events as well. They take all of the care you should wish. They are insured, as you would expect considering that they wouldn't want to face the financial risk of loss of a million dollar cargo.

Of all the years I've used the bus service I've only ever had scuffed bar tape. It's a 10K km/year bike, so it's got far more cosmetic issues than that. But if that sort of wear and tear worries you, then you don't want the bus. But I've done worse putting my bike in my own car.

I've seen some people treat the bus drivers quite rudely, especially the year the buses were late because they were dispatched to rescue the hundreds of riders who DNFed when a strong headwind front moved through the course bringing hot winds to an already hot day. I had thought we were better than that, but some riders seem to have a strong sense of entitlement (so much so that the local newspaper had an editorial on the poor behaviour of people training for this year's TDU Challenge Tour).
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Welsh Dragon » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:55 pm

Thanks very much. I think its our only option really but we're very precious about our bikes.

Does anyone know if many people take the escpae route?! I don't think I can cope with 8% gradient for 2.5 km, I have to be realistic here!!!!



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Welsh Dragon wrote:Oh, I see there is a coach transfer but anyone tell me how my precious bike will be transported (along with everyone else's precious bikes!)

In previous years:

On an enclosed truck, or on a car-hauling trailer behind the bus. The bike is put in, then carpet underfelt is placed over the top, draping over both sides, then the next bike, ... Some cardboard and ropes are thrown over the top if the bikes are on a trailer.

Best to remove water bottles, cycle computers and the like, as there are always a few of those discovered on the floor of the truck afterwards. You'll want those on the bus anyway.

The bus company have been doing it for years and do all of the BikeSA events as well. They take all of the care you should wish. They are insured, as you would expect considering that they wouldn't want to face the financial risk of loss of a million dollar cargo.

Of all the years I've used the bus service I've only ever had scuffed bar tape. It's a 10K km/year bike, so it's got far more cosmetic issues than that. But if that sort of wear and tear worries you, then you don't want the bus. But I've done worse putting my bike in my own car.

I've seen some people treat the bus drivers quite rudely, especially the year the buses were late because they were dispatched to rescue the hundreds of riders who DNFed when a strong headwind front moved through the course bringing hot winds to an already hot day. I had thought we were better than that, but some riders seem to have a strong sense of entitlement (so much so that the local newspaper had an editorial on the poor behaviour of people training for this year's TDU Challenge Tour).
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby David_G » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:00 pm

I'm not gunna cope with a climb like that either, but I don't suppose there's any rules about stopping along it.
That'll be my strategy for sure.
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby gdt » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:36 pm

If you really don't want to put you bike on the bus you could ride from Tanunda to Gawler and catch the train back to the city.

As for the hills, they're not a problem, their location late in the route is the problem. Lots of participants don't think through the route tactically and challenges late in the course seem to undo a surprisingly high percentage of riders. Obviously the thing to do is not to work at all in the long descent through Williamstown and get in water and food, but doubtless you'll see riders trying to set a land speed record and charging past the water stops. The Chain of Ponds is hilly and tight, but in these mass events there's so many inexperienced riders that there's often no hope of choosing an optimal line, so sitting up there and cruising along before Smith Hill might make some sense on the day.

I'll be taking my 10yo daughter and so we'll cruise the whole thing. We've done Menglers before and we have been training by having fast 70Km runs before doing Willunga Hill, so I'm pretty confident we'll make it in good time and without drama. If I wasn't taking her I'd be very inclined to get together a group to do the whole L'Eroica thing: dress retro, call in on some wineries on the way through, and arrive at the finish line bringing our own champers.
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby David_G » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:01 pm

In my latest incarnation as road rider I've worked out that downhills are pretty much recovery periods, I'm sure I'll get there but how often I stop for a rest up the hills will be interesting.
I've toured the Barossa a few times before but always in a car, if you buy by the case it's about $10 to post home.
So when I need some time to revive I hope it coincides with a couple of them.
That'll sort out the problem od what to bring back as a souvenir as I'm going solo on this trip
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Cycotic » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:07 pm

gdt wrote:If you really don't want to put you bike on the bus you could ride from Tanunda to Gawler and catch the train back to the city.


The Gawler train line is closed for repairs until April/May. There is a substitute bus service, but you wouldn't get your bike on it.
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby RobRollin » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:41 am

Well our tickets are booked and theres a few of us coming from Tas.

Here is a thread about a BNA ride

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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Welsh Dragon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:27 pm

I think if I stop on that incline I'll never get going again !!

David_G wrote:I'm not gunna cope with a climb like that either, but I don't suppose there's any rules about stopping along it.
That'll be my strategy for sure.
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Welsh Dragon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:35 pm

What's the dress code for the legends dinner ? i.e. it says lounge suit but can someone expand on that for me ?!
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Tour Downunder

Postby Max » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:24 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:What's the dress code for the legends dinner ? i.e. it says lounge suit but can someone expand on that for me ?!


It's the sort of suit you might wear in a business context. Matching pants and jacket (not a sports jacket), long-sleeved shirt and tie.

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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Welsh Dragon » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:29 pm

Thanks ! And Cocktail dress for women ?
Anyone got their tickets yet ?


Max wrote:
Welsh Dragon wrote:What's the dress code for the legends dinner ? i.e. it says lounge suit but can someone expand on that for me ?!


It's the sort of suit you might wear in a business context. Matching pants and jacket (not a sports jacket), long-sleeved shirt and tie.

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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby David_G » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:52 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:Anyone got their tickets yet ?





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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby Welsh Dragon » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:35 pm

Dinner tickets just arrived. Now...what to wear !
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Re: Tour Downunder

Postby you cannot be sirrus » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:48 pm

Welsh Dragon wrote:Dinner tickets just arrived. Now...what to wear !



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