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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Drunkmonkey » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:28 am

PawPaw wrote:It appears to me 9 have packaged this telecast for the overseas market, where there's more interest and higher tv audiences.


Wrong - not many people in Europe or the US would be interested in a race thats being held in Australia during January, its not road cycling season in their minds.

The TDU has no chance to compete with CX and 6 day racing which are their cycling events during their winter.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Chuck » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:08 am

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Honestly the only difference between SBS and Nine is nines highlight package is on later at night.


5 hours is a huge difference when you have to get up for work.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby clackers » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:16 am

CommuRider wrote:Darrell Eastlake is commentating next weekend's live coverage.

Big WT? there. Phil Liggett didn't say a word.


Not sure what you mean, he and Paul Sherwen did their usual spiel, CommuRider ...
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby PawPaw » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:26 am

Drunkmonkey wrote:Wrong - not many people in Europe or the US would be interested in a race thats being held in Australia during January,


So in your view, 9 primarily outbid SBS for the rights to run highlights at 1030pm in Australia, and all these foreign networks are broadcasting something to not many people.

International broadcasters
Viewers around the world can watch the Santos Tour Down Under action on the following networks. Please check your local broadcaster for schedule details.

France - Sport+
Ireland - Setanta
Luxembourg - RTL
Norway - TV2Sport
Spain - Teledeporte
UK - Sky Sports and ITV
Pan-Africa - Supersport
USA and Canada - NBCSports and Rogers
South and Central America - Direct TV
Pan-Asia - Eurosport Asia
Japan - Jsports
Malaysia - Astro
New Zealand - Sky TV
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Tale » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:52 am

Drunkmonkey wrote:SBS didnt do a full broadcast last year - just a highlights package. The Cancer Classic was live but thats it.


Didn't SBS broadcast the last two stages live in 2010 and 2011, in addition to the nightly highlights? I attended the TDU the last three years as a holiday and rode the Challenge Tour stages in the last two, and I distinctly remember lying in my Adelaide hotel room watching the full Willunga stage live on TV in 2010, as I was too exhausted to ride down to McLaren Vale :)

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby CommuRider » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:11 am

Surely, Channel 9's poaching of other sports coverages is bordering on the anti-competitive?

It's like the way Woolies and Coles are buying prime pieces of real estate land so no rival supermarket can build on it ala Aldi's submission to the ACCC. Same principle is applying here. C9 is buying the rugby, AFL, cycling coverage etc so the other channels can't show it. Nothing to do with their own ratings because they don't have the in-house experts (Eastlake a motorsports fan is doing the cycling coverage now?!!!), but to prevent other channels from getting the viewers AND the sponsors that come with the viewers.

Highly anti-competitive. Each FTA station has its digital channels now so it beggars belief that C9 wouldn't show this on their other digital channel. C7, at least, is still honouring their sports commitment and actually showing the tennis live (!).

C'mon ACCC, this station's strategy of buying out the rights to shunt the competition, is to the detriment of the Australian consuming public.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:00 pm

Channel 9 suks bllocks. End of story.
I'm starting an online petition to Santos give it back to SBS for semi serious Poo's and giggles
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby CommuRider » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:33 pm

grasshopper wrote:Now with added Fb.


Direct link to petition

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Drunkmonkey » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:52 pm

PawPaw wrote:
Drunkmonkey wrote:Wrong - not many people in Europe or the US would be interested in a race thats being held in Australia during January,


So in your view, 9 primarily outbid SBS for the rights to run highlights at 1030pm in Australia, and all these foreign networks are broadcasting something to not many people.

International broadcasters
Viewers around the world can watch the Santos Tour Down Under action on the following networks. Please check your local broadcaster for schedule details.

France - Sport+
Ireland - Setanta
Luxembourg - RTL
Norway - TV2Sport
Spain - Teledeporte
UK - Sky Sports and ITV
Pan-Africa - Supersport
USA and Canada - NBCSports and Rogers
South and Central America - Direct TV
Pan-Asia - Eurosport Asia
Japan - Jsports
Malaysia - Astro
New Zealand - Sky TV


Being broadcast and being watched are two different things :wink:

How many people watch the smaller races broadcast on Eurosports?
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Drunkmonkey » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:53 pm

Tale wrote:
Drunkmonkey wrote:SBS didnt do a full broadcast last year - just a highlights package. The Cancer Classic was live but thats it.


Didn't SBS broadcast the last two stages live in 2010 and 2011, in addition to the nightly highlights? I attended the TDU the last three years as a holiday and rode the Challenge Tour stages in the last two, and I distinctly remember lying in my Adelaide hotel room watching the full Willunga stage live on TV in 2010, as I was too exhausted to ride down to McLaren Vale :)

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2 stages live is not full coverage!!
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Drunkmonkey » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:54 pm

Chuck wrote:
Drunkmonkey wrote:
Honestly the only difference between SBS and Nine is nines highlight package is on later at night.


5 hours is a huge difference when you have to get up for work.


How do you cope during the 3 weeks of the TDF then :wink:
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Drunkmonkey » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:58 pm

CommuRider wrote:Surely, Channel 9's poaching of other sports coverages is bordering on the anti-competitive?

It's like the way Woolies and Coles are buying prime pieces of real estate land so no rival supermarket can build on it ala Aldi's submission to the ACCC. Same principle is applying here. C9 is buying the rugby, AFL, cycling coverage etc so the other channels can't show it. Nothing to do with their own ratings because they don't have the in-house experts (Eastlake a motorsports fan is doing the cycling coverage now?!!!), but to prevent other channels from getting the viewers AND the sponsors that come with the viewers.

Highly anti-competitive. Each FTA station has its digital channels now so it beggars belief that C9 wouldn't show this on their other digital channel. C7, at least, is still honouring their sports commitment and actually showing the tennis live (!).

C'mon ACCC, this station's strategy of buying out the rights to shunt the competition, is to the detriment of the Australian consuming public.



Its a waste of time banging on about channel 9, complain to the TDU organisers - they knew what they were getting into when they sold their soul to channel 9 :evil:

Like I said - the TDU organisers want you to visit Adelaide and empty your wallet while you are there, they dont want you to have full television coverage. 100,000 people watched last nights stage from around the track - thats what oragnisers want, big crowds.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby CommuRider » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:06 pm

Not saying TDU organisers aren't culpable either. Obviously $$$$ offered by C9 > SBS. TdU are out of touch with cycling fans and don't realise live coverage is much more important as the sport is growing than this great attempt to stifle the sport with late night highlights.

Nevertheless, C9 has destroyed other sports coverage before and is on its way of destroying this one too. I still despair about the RWC coverage. A tournament that comes once every 4 years and C9 crapped all over it.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby JB » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:48 pm

TDU coverage = sucks = Channel 9 :evil:

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Oxford » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:36 pm

CommuRider wrote:Darrell Eastlake is commentating next weekend's live coverage.

...

I was considering watching it this weekend even though it was on Nein. That person alone is enough for me not to even look and see when its on let alone actually watch it.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby vander » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:59 pm

What noone has mentioned is the kids. Kids will not be able to watch this that late at night. We all know who the future of the sport is so I think having kids watching it is the most important thing for the sport to grow, which apparently is what giving it to channel 9 is meant to be doing........
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Chuck » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:35 pm

Drunkmonkey wrote:How do you cope during the 3 weeks of the TDF then :wink:


Excellent point DM :D and the reason so many are so miffed. Here's the one event we don't have to "cope" with, the one event we don't have to turn up for work in a zombie like trance for, the one event we don't have to sacrifice our early morning ride for and Nine go and #%$* it for us :evil:

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby JV911 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:50 pm

Chuck wrote:5 hours is a huge difference when you have to get up to ride.


fixed


Drunkmonkey wrote:How do you cope during the 3 weeks of the TDF then :wink:


- record the stage and watch it when you get home from work
- avoid all forms of media during the day
- ban colleagues from discussing the race while you're in ear-shot
- publicly shame anyone who gives the results of the previous nights stage away at work (they'll only do it once:))
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Tale » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:47 pm

SBS is doing online highlights packages. Here's the first: Down Under Classic highlights.

Also lots of SBS TDU news and some post-race interviews and other videos.

I mean, you can at least watch it for Sophie Smith. AKA @sophiesmith86.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby timbo » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:50 am

Oxford wrote:
CommuRider wrote:Darrell Eastlake is commentating next weekend's live coverage.

...

I was considering watching it this weekend even though it was on Nein. That person alone is enough for me not to even look and see when its on let alone actually watch it.


I was hoping H.G. Nelson and "Rampaging" Roy Slaven would cover it. :D

I still haven't worked out why Channel 9 want cycling.
Are they working up to the TDF?
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby stevecassidy » Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:26 am

Just noticed that Nine have scheduled live streaming of the highlights package at 7pm each night as well as the broadcast version. I'm pretty sure that wasn't there before so hopefully a reaction to all the comment that is going around.

Their live streaming wasn't much to write home about picture quality wise, but better than nothing I guess.

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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby CommuRider » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:42 am

timbo wrote:
Oxford wrote:
CommuRider wrote:Darrell Eastlake is commentating next weekend's live coverage.

...

I was considering watching it this weekend even though it was on Nein. That person alone is enough for me not to even look and see when its on let alone actually watch it.


I was hoping H.G. Nelson and "Rampaging" Roy Slaven would cover it. :D

I still haven't worked out why Channel 9 want cycling.
Are they working up to the TDF?


Won't be surprised if they did. What were the viewing figures when Cadel won the TT and the ride down the Champs Elysee?

I can imagine if C9 bought the TdF coverage, instead of Gabriel Gate we would get the dumbed down footage of tits and bums before every stage. :| instead of chateaux and jardins, P&P will be waxing lyrical about the framed limited edition of Cadel's maillot jaune, numbered to 1000 with highly exclusive replica signature.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Tale » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:46 am

As far as I can tell from her tweets, SBS has @sophiesmith86 in the Lotto-Belisol car today. And live online updates on the race here.
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Re: TdU Channel Nine coverage

Postby Parrott » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:40 am

Tale wrote:
I mean, you can at least watch it for Sophie Smith. AKA @sophiesmith86.


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