it seems that Renshaw was leading out Bos, before Bos crashed. he did well to take 6th after presumably doing a lot of work before starting his sprint.Daccordi Rider wrote: Renshaw as the outside tip coz he thrives on that stuff.
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Goss looked good though and will win a stage or two, just needs a harder finish.
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Thanks, a few wins in the tdf coming up this year too then, hopefully someone can kick with him though to keep it interesting.Daccordi Rider wrote:He was on another plane.Came over Goss and got a length with about 100m to go and then held it. Thor got out of the gate early and faded, Tyler too slow and Renshaw had done too much trying to lead Bos out.
Goss looked good though and will win a stage or two, just needs a harder finish.
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English at sbs, but CT has longer highlights - which shows contact between GreenEdge and Rabo at 3:29 and again about 20 seconds later. Almost like Brown but I wouldn't have thought he'd be no. 3 there. Did Bos touch Renshaw's wheel?Parrott wrote:Did anyone see the final sprint for the second stage? I'm wondering how close it was and if it was Cav's kick that got him the win again. He seems to get a bike length and then holds it.
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Postby briztoon » Mon May 07, 2012 6:59 pm
Watched it last night, and again this afternoon. I agree that Cav didn't look as strong as I've seen him at previous TDF's. (this is my first year following cycling apart from the TDF). But Cav at 70% is still too much for Goss. They both jumped out from behind Thors wheel with 200 meters to go, with Cav right next to Goss. Cav had a clear lead with 100 meters to go and Goss tried to jump on to Cavs wheel, but couldn't. I didn't understand Goss trying to get Cavs wheel when there was no chance he was going around Cav.vander wrote:I would say Cav didnt look supremely strong him and Goss drag raced for a while and he wasnt heaps stronger than Gossy.
I'm afraid that Goss is in the second tier of sprinters when it comes to the big races.
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Funny, that is not what Cav thinks of Gossy....briztoon wrote:I'm afraid that Goss is in the second tier of sprinters when it comes to the big races.
Cav wrote:’Gossy' is the only rider I fear right now to beat me in a bunch sprint,” he told the Sydney Morning Herald at the Tour of Qatar. “When he is on form he is incredible. He arrives so fresh because he can climb well, and he is clever on the bike
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Cav has Goss's measure and knows it. What he's saying, without saying it, is he doesn't rate the other big sprinters. It's called gamesmanship.
It's interesting that he points out how Goss can get over the climbs, because that is one thing Goss (and other sprinters such as Filippo Pozzato) has over some of the top sprinters. Cav and Greipel will be dropped on any decent climb and not be there to contest a group sprint, where as Goss can get over, even if he is sick, i.e Milan San Remo. Or if they are still with the finishing group, don't have the legs to go as hard as on a flat stage.
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Cav got cut down 200 meters from the line and had two lime green riders ride over him, the second crashing.
Happy to eat my words.
Oh, and Talyor Phinney went down to and looks bad, maybe a broken ankle.
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It looked to me like even if he didnt come down Goss has his measure. Also Disappointing by renshaw had a pretty clean run and couldnt do much at all, as I said he doesnt have the kick should be working for Bos.briztoon wrote:
Taylor Phiney got cut down 200 meters from the line and had two lime green riders ride over him, the second crashing.
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That's already a big discussion point over at CN. Some feel Cav had greater speed coming around the outside and would have got Goss. I'm not going to get in to what if's but.vander wrote:It looked to me like even if he didnt come down Goss has his measure. Also Disappointing by renshaw had a pretty clean run and couldnt do much at all, as I said he doesnt have the kick should be working for Bos.
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Postby ft_critical » Tue May 08, 2012 8:44 am
Surprised no-one commented much on Monday's crash. Bos got bumped by someone on the inside, was going into Renshaw's wheel, braked, locked the rear, slid and flipped. What was amazing was that his back wheel was going straight into the Danish guy's head as Bos put him into the barriers. Pretty spectacluar from the overhead. I saw that on Eurosport, but not on the Sky highlights.
There was some great over head footage of Farrar pinballing too. All that bumping at 40-50kmh is just amazing. Amazing that there aren't more crashes. You can even see a wheel touch where he steers into the wheel touch, wobbles, bumps someone, straightens and carries on.
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Glad to see that Phinney is OK.
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Ouch.
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Awesome bunnyhop, bet his heartrate was a bit elevated at the finish.
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Who was that bloke with the bunnyhop
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