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Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:57 pm
by MichaelB
Haven't seen that stage yet, but happy to read that cadel attacked and did really well. Didn't work in the end, but showed what could be done, and put Wiggo on the back foot big time.

Andy lost plenty of time again today, but after seeing the road rash he got, kudos for still finishing.

Don't think he'll be a podium threat at the tour, but may win a stage or two to salvage some honour. Even his long time supporter, Andersson is not overly supporting him.

Go Cadel !!

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:53 pm
by Parrott
Wonder how Cancellara is travelling and how ready he will be for the tdf tt's. Without disrespecting Wiggo I can't see him beating Fabian when he is on form, so Martin must be a bit off compared to last year.
Haven't seen any of this race so far, but I'm hoping Cadel can put the pressure on hard in the mountains at the tdf. :twisted:

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:20 pm
by find_bruce
All you Schleck haters take note
cyclingnews wrote:Asked if he had considered abandoning the Dauphiné in the wake of his accident, Schleck admitted that he had already deprived himself of too many racing days this season. Illness forced him out of Paris-Nice after just two stages and he subsequently withdrew from the Volta a Catalunya.

“I’ve abandoned too many times this year already,” he said with a half smile. “Earlier in the season, you can ask yourself what’s the best option. But now the Tour is in four weeks so it’s a case of no turning back. You have to go straight on.”

But it seems he has dug deep & found what it takes to abandon one more time.

When asked form comment, I understand Johan Bruyneel simply responded "Oh FFS!"

Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:29 pm
by Parrott
Wiggins and sky looking good on the climb. Hoping he's peaked a bit early.

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:00 am
by clackers
Unfortunately, same old for Cadel ... having to do a fine solo effort after again seeing the rest of his team get dropped one by one ...

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:49 am
by The 2nd Womble
It's eally starting to irk me that every team in the ProTour has capable climbers for these stages EXCEPT BMC. I do hope the TDS guys find better form in the Mountains.
Reading Cadels comments on his TT doesn't inspire confidence if the TDF stage(s) are flat either, and with Wiggo having the season that Oogabooga had prior to taking the Tour last year, I also hope He isn't regretting the lack of racing in his lead up. I just have a nagging sus that Cadel won't be good enoigh this time around :(

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:55 am
by The 2nd Womble
LMAO :lol:
vino: andy no like time trial. andy no like descending. andy no like rain. andy no like cold. andy no like big heat. andy no like crosswinds. andy no like headwinds. andy no like serious training. andy complain too much about everything.

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:55 am
by Parrott
The 2nd Womble wrote:It's eally starting to irk me that every team in the ProTour has capable climbers for these stages EXCEPT BMC. I do hope the TDS guys find better form in the Mountains.
Reading Cadels comments on his TT doesn't inspire confidence if the TDF stage(s) are flat either, and with Wiggo having the season that Oogabooga had prior to taking the Tour last year, I also hope He isn't regretting the lack of racing in his lead up. I just have a nagging sus that Cadel won't be good enoigh this time around :(


Wiggo also won the Criterium du Dauhpine last year. I'm hoping Cadel has more improvement in him over the next 4/52 8)

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:59 pm
by doggatas
Parrott wrote:Wiggins and sky looking good on the climb. Hoping he's peaked a bit early.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-lauds-new-training-philosophy

Wiggins trying to stay at 95%+ all season, so with that in mind I reckon Cadel has more room to improve, 1.44, only time will tell!

Wiggins looks to have a superior climbing ensemble at his disposal. This years tour is shaping up to be the Wiggins vs Evans show, possibly leaving the door open for someone to fly under the radar.

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:02 pm
by gus24
I reckon Cadel will have the edge in the 3rd week of the tour

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:14 pm
by RICHARDH
Wiggins has done extremely well in the one week races, but this idea of staying at 95% all season will be very interesting come the 3rd week of the Tour. While some sports can do this nothing compares to the extreme level of endurance that is needed to compete at the top level of the GC in the Tour. Sky train actually works for Evans as well as the tempo suits Evans.

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:52 pm
by jcjordan
I am wondering if Cadel told the bus to sit up. They were all going strong and looking comfortable till SKY decided move forward and take up the pace. Cadel the just pushed a few positions forward and said something on the way through and all of a sudden not q single BMC rider in site.

I am thinking that with the downhill finish he figured that he could put pressure on Wiggo without using up his team.

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Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:10 pm
by liamb
makes you wonder how the sky train will work for Wiggins and Cav. How many sprint train carriages and how many climbing train carriages will they set up?. BMC last year were there just for Cadel and Cadel only Wiggins may require a total team in week 3 not a train of half sprinters.

Bill

Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:06 pm
by RonK
liamb wrote:makes you wonder how the sky train will work for Wiggins and Cav. How many sprint train carriages and how many climbing train carriages will they set up?. BMC last year were there just for Cadel and Cadel only Wiggins may require a total team in week 3 not a train of half sprinters.

Bill

There will be only one train. I doubt that Cavendish will be entered. If he is, it'll only be for the first week.

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:26 pm
by clackers
Parrott wrote:Wiggo also won the Criterium du Dauhpine last year. I'm hoping Cadel has more improvement in him over the next 4/52 8)


Hmmm ... I hope so too, Parrott, but last year Wiggins was only stopped in the TdF by a broken collarbone.

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:30 pm
by clackers
liamb wrote:makes you wonder how the sky train will work for Wiggins and Cav. How many sprint train carriages and how many climbing train carriages will they set up?. BMC last year were there just for Cadel and Cadel only Wiggins may require a total team in week 3 not a train of half sprinters.

Bill


Great point, Bill. Do Sky really give up on a proven green jacket wearer to chase the potential yellow?

Robbie McEwan's career was full of having to steal wins with team resources being thrown at the GC candidate (including, ahem, Cadel.)

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:55 pm
by humanbeing
RonK wrote:
liamb wrote:makes you wonder how the sky train will work for Wiggins and Cav. How many sprint train carriages and how many climbing train carriages will they set up?. BMC last year were there just for Cadel and Cadel only Wiggins may require a total team in week 3 not a train of half sprinters.

Bill

There will be only one train. I doubt that Cavendish will be entered. If he is, it'll only be for the first week.


Cavendish might think a gold medal in the Olympic road race at home would go well with the world champions jersey.
He can get another green jersey next year.
Go Cadel!
Peter

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:19 pm
by liamb
for mine going on alot of "expert" opinion Wiggo may not have the endurance to go the 3 weeks and spend the last week climbing and TT'ing. I have a horrible feeling (got nothing to back it up!!) Cadel may not do it this year but I still think he is in the right form and position to back it up.

Bill

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:57 pm
by liamb
great to see Cadel's young lad with him at the interview!!! thats the sort of thing I like to see, keeps the reality in mind

Bill

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:57 pm
by norbs
liamb wrote:great to see Cadel's young lad with him at the interview!!! thats the sort of thing I like to see, keeps the reality in mind

Bill



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Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:06 pm
by hosko
He really liked that microphone!!

While he wasn't wearing yellow, Cadel is having a brilliant lead up to the tour. If he does the same over 3 weeks and not just 8 days, Wiggo might not have a chance.

Re: Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:14 pm
by Chuck
Excellent week for Cadel. Just as important as the physical is the mental and he's in a great head space at BMC, they are the perfect fit, he looks so happy and relaxed a far cry from the uptight dude at Lotto in 08. He just needs the same luck as last year and he will give a great sight at the Tour :D

Sky are very impressive, really happy to see Rogers and Porte riding so well. For all the talk of Wiggins (who was excellent) the elephant in the room could again be Froome just as he was at the Vuelta. He had a good week also and might just be peaking at the right time, could make for some interesting viewing.

As has already been said I hope Schleck finds his best form or that someone like Gesink really emerges to shake things up on GC. It'll be pretty boring if Wiggins and Cadel just mark each other and wait for the TT's.

Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:24 pm
by jamesn184
Anyone know if Ryder H will be at the tour?

Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:02 pm
by RonK
jamesn184 wrote:Anyone know if Ryder H will be at the tour?

Pretty much a certainty I think. Garmin don't really have another GC contender.

Criterium du Dauhpine 2012

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:46 pm
by jamesn184
Well Ryder has shown that he has the form going in and the endurance for le tour