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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby briztoon » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:59 pm

How many riders have abandoned over the last tow days? Fair call to Gerro, a cracked thigh bone is a legitimate excuse. I did hear quite a few riders suffered from hypothermia in the rain in the Pyrenees.
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby Davidrnau » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:17 pm

briztoon wrote:How many riders have abandoned over the last tow days? Fair call to Gerro, a cracked thigh bone is a legitimate excuse. I did hear quite a few riders suffered from hypothermia in the rain in the Pyrenees.



Yes the commentators have mentioned that alot on Eurosports....getting down to 9 degrees c rainy and misrable conditions, must be hard for the riders after the extreme heat.

Can't believe the helicopter got up in the air, looked very cloudy and dangerous.

Stage 14 and 15 I have really enjoyed :D

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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:23 pm

+1 on the enjoyable to watch, tough mtn stages.
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby Davidrnau » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:37 pm

Stage 16 > Graus - Sallent de Gállego. Aramón Formigal
9 September / 146.80 kilometres

Stagewinner : 03:43:31 BARGUIL Warren

General Classification
1. NIBALI Vincenzo AST 64:06:01
2. HORNER Christopher RLT 00:00:28
3. VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro MOV 00:01:14
4. RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin KAT 00:02:29
5. POZZOVIVO Domenico ALM 00:03:38
6. ROCHE Nicholas TST 00:03:43
7. PINOT Thibaut FDJ 00:04:37
8. KONIG Leopold TNE 00:06:17
9. SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel EUS 00:07:33
10. KANGERT Tanel AST 00:09:21

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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby bvella » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:02 am

Amazing talent Barguil is. Won the Tour de l'Avenir (U23 TDF sort of) last year.
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby DavidS » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:28 am

It's getting interesting, looking forward to Thursday night.

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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby biker jk » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:57 am

Does anyone know how Barguil acquired the first name "Warren"? Not exactly French. :D
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby clackers » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:30 am

briztoon wrote: Fair call to Gerro, a cracked thigh bone is a legitimate excuse.


Yeah, shocking timing - he could have had a real go at the World's next month.
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby Davidrnau » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:21 pm

Stage 17 > Calahorra - Burgos
11 September / 189.00 kilometres

Stagewinner : 04:44:28 MOLLEMA Bauke

General Classification
1. NIBALI Vincenzo AST 68:50:29
2. HORNER Christopher RLT 00:00:28
3. VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro MOV 00:01:14
4. RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin KAT 00:02:29
5. ROCHE Nicholas TST 00:03:43
6. POZZOVIVO Domenico ALM 00:05:09
7. PINOT Thibaut FDJ 00:06:08
8. KONIG Leopold TNE 00:06:17
9. SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel EUS 00:07:33
10. KANGERT Tanel AST 00:10:52

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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby Davidrnau » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:31 pm

I think that stage 18 will see the eventual GC winner (most likely Nibali) of the Vuelta from this stage, some brutul climbs, the last two kilometres with 20 degree sections. Expect to see Horner clinging to Nibalis back wheel, but Nibali will just toy (as he has done in previous stages) with Horner and power away when he sees fit.

The big guns will need to be up front before hitting the streets of Solares to avoid crashes.

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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby schroeds » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:14 pm

clackers wrote:
briztoon wrote: Fair call to Gerro, a cracked thigh bone is a legitimate excuse.


Yeah, shocking timing - he could have had a real go at the World's next month.


Are we wildly optimistic about our riders? I mean look at Gossy

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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby biker jk » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:26 am

Davidrnau wrote:I think that stage 18 will see the eventual GC winner (most likely Nibali) of the Vuelta from this stage, some brutul climbs, the last two kilometres with 20 degree sections. Expect to see Horner clinging to Nibalis back wheel, but Nibali will just toy (as he has done in previous stages) with Horner and power away when he sees fit.

The big guns will need to be up front before hitting the streets of Solares to avoid crashes.

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Nibali has lost time to Horner on the last two mountain stages. Horner is clearly the best climber in the Vuelta based on current form.
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby MichaelB » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:00 am

The penultimate stage up the Angrilu is shaping up as an absolute cracker !!!
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby Davidrnau » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:45 am

biker jk wrote:
Nibali has lost time to Horner on the last two mountain stages. Horner is clearly the best climber in the Vuelta based on current form.


True...am a big Nibali fan...He's (Horner) edging closer to the red jersey now hes only three seconds behind Nibali in GC.

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2013 Vuelta a España

Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:55 pm

Is it me or Horner just looks like a Zombie when he rides? He just seems to have this goofy look on his face the whole time.

Another thing. Why has it taken him until he is 41 to become a grand tour GC rider? Cadel is supposed to be the eldest grand tour winner in the post war period and he was only 34.
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby JohnJoyner » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:29 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:Is it me or Horner just looks like a Zombie when he rides? He just seems to have this goofy look on his face the whole time.

Another thing. Why has it taken him until he is 41 to become a grand tour GC rider? Cadel is supposed to be the eldest grand tour winner in the post war period and he was only 34.

Maybe the Big Mac's he's been eating have contaminated beef?? :lol:
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby Davidrnau » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:45 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:Is it me or Horner just looks like a Zombie when he rides? He just seems to have this goofy look on his face the whole time.

Another thing. Why has it taken him until he is 41 to become a grand tour GC rider? Cadel is supposed to be the eldest grand tour winner in the post war period and he was only 34.


Just watched stage 18 now, Horner drives me nuts with that smile/smirk on his face.....and yeah the whole Vuelta I have been thinking to myself, wow a 41 year old superhero, the way he climbed up those last few km's of stage 18 :o ...he got through those 20% gradients like a man thats just hopped on a road bike :o

Nibali just looked completely stuffed.

Sorry, but I am abit 'sus' of Horner and his 2013 Vuelta performances.

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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby vosadrian » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:20 pm

As a 40 year old myself I want to believe in Horner's performance. To be fair, Nibali does not appear to be anywhere near the form he was in for the Giro. At the Giro he was being aggressive on the climbs just to show he could even when it was risky. None of that here. He just seems to be managing losses where he can. It seems to me that it is a case of a fresh Horner against others who gave their best at earlier season tours.

Given current form of riders, it is difficult to see Nibali holding on. I just hope Horner is doing it without other help!
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby clackers » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:46 pm

schroeds wrote:
Are we wildly optimistic about our riders? I mean look at Gossy

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Well, to use your example, Schroeds, Gossy was runner up in 2011.

How soon we forget!
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby Davidrnau » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:12 pm

vosadrian wrote:As a 40 year old myself I want to believe in Horner's performance. To be fair, Nibali does not appear to be anywhere near the form he was in for the Giro. At the Giro he was being aggressive on the climbs just to show he could even when it was risky. None of that here. He just seems to be managing losses where he can. It seems to me that it is a case of a fresh Horner against others who gave their best at earlier season tours.

Given current form of riders, it is difficult to see Nibali holding on. I just hope Horner is doing it without other help!



Yes I agree, the Giro must have taken a hell of alot out of Nibali, it really showed at the end I feel of stage 18, I honestly thought he was going to have a clip stack out of exhaustion, he looked like me :D going up a hill, sloped forward, struggling, sucking in the big ones.

Anyways all the best to Horner.

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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby toolonglegs » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:21 pm

Always been a fan of Chris, good he finally gets a chance to ride for himself!.
He has always been a solid performer in hilly stage races. Plus I don't think the competition is all that amazing this Vuelta.
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby schroeds » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:30 pm

clackers wrote:
schroeds wrote:
Are we wildly optimistic about our riders? I mean look at Gossy

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Well, to use your example, Schroeds, Gossy was runner up in 2011.

How soon we forget!


Quite right...but overall wouldn't you say he's failed to meet expectations* that's my point...maybe we expect too much given OGEs pretty short history as a team.

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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby bvella » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:07 am

Cant wait till 7 years after this race when Horner gets done for doping....
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby biker jk » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:26 pm

bvella wrote:Cant wait till 7 years after this race when Horner gets done for doping....


Can't disagree that his performance is unbelievable but Nibali in the Giro was likewise.
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Re: 2013 Vuelta a España

Postby bvella » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:37 pm

biker jk wrote:
bvella wrote:Cant wait till 7 years after this race when Horner gets done for doping....


Can't disagree that his performance is unbelievable but Nibali in the Giro was likewise.

Really. He had hardly any competition. Much more believable than a 42 year old standing up out of the seat the whole climb and doing it with ease.
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