Someone forgot to tell Contador after he stuffed his shoulder.thecaptn wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/richie- ... ro-ditalia
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Re: 2015 Giro d'Italia
Postby Chris249 » Tue May 26, 2015 3:02 pm
The best images of that race are the ones that Hampsten himself has autographed, which are hanging in the northern refugio on the peak of the Gavia climb, close to where the pic was taken. Even in late August/early September it can be below freezing up there, but it's still an unforgettable ride.singlespeedscott wrote:Agreed. Nothing like mountain stages with 6 foot of snow on the side of the road or sleet coming down on the riders. Carp for the riders but great viewing in front of the TV.RonK wrote:On the contrary - the unpredictability of the weather is one of the aspects that make it most interesting.cyclotaur wrote:I think the Giro is held too early in the year - bad weather often intervenes. Otherwise it would be the best of the Grand Tours.
I wonder how the weather will be next week in the high mountains ? [emoji53]
I had to be put up as it's a classic image
I thought this year's Giro route was intended to avoid the worst of the weather, but surely they won't permanently avoid the Gavia and Stelvio.
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Re: 2015 Giro d'Italia
Postby thecaptn » Tue May 26, 2015 7:34 pm
Porte wasn't winning the race.fat and old wrote:Someone forgot to tell Contador after he stuffed his shoulder.thecaptn wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/richie- ... ro-ditalia
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Postby RonK » Tue May 26, 2015 8:02 pm
To finish first, first you must finish.thecaptn wrote:Porte wasn't winning the race.fat and old wrote:Someone forgot to tell Contador after he stuffed his shoulder.thecaptn wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/richie- ... ro-ditalia
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Postby thecaptn » Tue May 26, 2015 8:45 pm
He who fights and runs away, may turn to fight another day.RonK wrote:To finish first, first you must finish.thecaptn wrote: Porte wasn't winning the race.
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Postby Chris249 » Tue May 26, 2015 10:59 pm
As I write, there's more questions to Porte about the motorhome.....jeezers, why is it such an issue? It's bizarre that gazillions of spectators can hire RVs and no-one blinks an eye, but it becomes big news when a winner of multiple stage races hires one.
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Postby RonK » Wed May 27, 2015 12:12 am
Porte is a super domestique, but that's about it.
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The more I think about it the more I think OGE and Porte would be a bad mix, it's not just Chavez and the Yates brothers at OGE who have GT potential, Jack Haig and Robert Power are both big talents, Power is more advanced at this stage but Haig has a lot of upside after committing to the road last year. BMC might want Porte especially if Van Garderen has a poor tour.Chris249 wrote:On the good side...maybe this will allow Porte to move to OGE, and give them a GC contender?
As I write, there's more questions to Porte about the motorhome.....jeezers, why is it such an issue? It's bizarre that gazillions of spectators can hire RVs and no-one blinks an eye, but it becomes big news when a winner of multiple stage races hires one.
There is a rumour about that OGE is interested at an out of contract Jurgen Van Den Broeck, not as a GT contender but more as a stage hunter and guidance to the young GC talent at OGE, White and VDB have been seen talking at the Giro and both know each other from Discovery Channel in 2006.
On the RV, it is a big deal that he was using the thing. It was a mistake by Sky separating there team leader from the rest of the riders and Porte pretty much said as much in that interview
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Postby Scott2468 » Wed May 27, 2015 10:26 am
Yes, it had it all. Great racing.MichaelB wrote:Cracker of a stage last night !!!
This stage really stirred my emotions. Some rides are either legendary, brutal, serene, memorable or beautiful. I can honestly say Mortirolo is all of this and more. I did this both ways last year. This stage really brought back great memories. Surprisingly, I even remembered some of those stunning, decepid, quaint farmhouses on the lower slopes.
I missed them go past Pantini's monument. Was that broadcast?
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Postby danny the boy » Wed May 27, 2015 2:06 pm
RonK wrote:OGE have made it quite clear they don't want Porte. They are developing Chavez and the Yates brothers.
Porte is a super domestique, but that's about it.
When and where did they do such a thing?
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Postby danny the boy » Wed May 27, 2015 2:21 pm
Strydz wrote: The more I think about it the more I think OGE and Porte would be a bad mix, it's not just Chavez and the Yates brothers at OGE who have GT potential, Jack Haig and Robert Power are both big talents, Power is more advanced at this stage but Haig has a lot of upside after committing to the road last year. BMC might want Porte especially if Van Garderen has a poor tour.
There is a rumour about that OGE is interested at an out of contract Jurgen Van Den Broeck, not as a GT contender but more as a stage hunter and guidance to the young GC talent at OGE, White and VDB have been seen talking at the Giro and both know each other from Discovery Channel in 2006.
All these guys are years away though, Contador dropped Chavez in a couple of 100 metres of the start of the climb last night. You are spot on they need a gap filler for a few years to work on developing the young guys. To put where Rob Power is at into perspective, Chavez won the Tour de l'Avenir in '11 and has taken this long to be riding GT's let alone any chance of competing for a place, Power was second in that race last year. The team dynamic and culture is very important at OGE and there is one guy who would fit straight in and is about the right age.
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Postby danny the boy » Wed May 27, 2015 2:28 pm
Scott2468 wrote:Yes, it had it all. Great racing.MichaelB wrote:Cracker of a stage last night !!!
This stage really stirred my emotions. Some rides are either legendary, brutal, serene, memorable or beautiful. I can honestly say Mortirolo is all of this and more. I did this both ways last year. This stage really brought back great memories. Surprisingly, I even remembered some of those stunning, decepid, quaint farmhouses on the lower slopes.
I missed them go past Pantini's monument. Was that broadcast?
It was on briefly. Coverage last night was shizen, not SBS's fault but to miss out on what happened to Contador on the descent was a big let down. Alberto was a like a boss. They reckon he had 34/29, I swear he had 1-2 cogs spare for most of the climb.
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Re: 2015 Giro d'Italia
Postby jack11 » Wed May 27, 2015 2:48 pm
Probably worth noting that Chavez had 12 months off the bike after a horror crash. Last year was his first season back and by his own admission it took 6 months for him to be up to speed. A more accurate comparison would be the Yates brothers who featured prominently in Avenir in 2013 and had break out years in 2014. I look forward to seeing what Power and Haig have to offer.danny the boy wrote:Strydz wrote: The more I think about it the more I think OGE and Porte would be a bad mix, it's not just Chavez and the Yates brothers at OGE who have GT potential, Jack Haig and Robert Power are both big talents, Power is more advanced at this stage but Haig has a lot of upside after committing to the road last year. BMC might want Porte especially if Van Garderen has a poor tour.
There is a rumour about that OGE is interested at an out of contract Jurgen Van Den Broeck, not as a GT contender but more as a stage hunter and guidance to the young GC talent at OGE, White and VDB have been seen talking at the Giro and both know each other from Discovery Channel in 2006.
All these guys are years away though, Contador dropped Chavez in a couple of 100 metres of the start of the climb last night. You are spot on they need a gap filler for a few years to work on developing the young guys. To put where Rob Power is at into perspective, Chavez won the Tour de l'Avenir in '11 and has taken this long to be riding GT's let alone any chance of competing for a place, Power was second in that race last year. The team dynamic and culture is very important at OGE and there is one guy who would fit straight in and is about the right age.
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Postby RonK » Wed May 27, 2015 3:19 pm
Right about here.danny the boy wrote:RonK wrote:OGE have made it quite clear they don't want Porte. They are developing Chavez and the Yates brothers.
Porte is a super domestique, but that's about it.
When and where did they do such a thing?
Any chance of Porte joining Orica-GreenEdge seem to have lessened, with the Australian team insisting that it is focused on developing Johan Esteban Chaves and the Yates brothers as Grand Tour leaders. Time will tell if this is true or just a distraction strategy.
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