Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

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Postby Sharkey » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:11 pm

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So Wiggins and Froome have a few things in common. Such as walking up climbs. :lol:


As well as a sudden change from pretender to contender.

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Postby biker jk » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:23 pm

Sharkey wrote:
biker jk wrote:


So Wiggins and Froome have a few things in common. Such as walking up climbs. :lol:


As well as a sudden change from pretender to contender.


That's a given and well know. It was Wiggins walking up a climb that I didn't know about.

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Postby RonK » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:07 pm

Sharkey wrote:
biker jk wrote:


So Wiggins and Froome have a few things in common. Such as walking up climbs. :lol:


As well as a sudden change from pretender to contender.

Nah - walking up climbs to riding up climbs to smashing all comers up climbs - that's just incremental improvement. :wink:
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Postby g-boaf » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:45 am

So how many of you here in the firmly anti-doping camp are actually potentially doping as well, possibly even this morning?

How many of you have consumed caffeine (coca cola, coffee, etc)?

It could become a prohibited substance. :lol: I know I drink plenty of coffee, and I know at least a couple of you here do as well.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/caffeine-co ... utzbu.html

With any luck that won't happen. Not because I care about any performance enhancing effects of coffee, but more that I love coffee.

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Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:53 pm

If caffeine ever did return to the prohibited substances list, it would be with a minimum blood concentration level before being considered doping. IOW drinking your regular morning latte is never going to be classified as doping.

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Postby Sharkey » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:58 pm

I thought caffeine was already on the list but the maximum allowable (the minimum you get pinged for) is so high that you can't fail the test by consumption of coffee, coke etc.

Remember the Australian pentathlete Alex Watson got sent home from the 1988 Seoul Olympics for failing the caffeine test after the fencing event.

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Postby RhapsodyX » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:27 pm

RonK wrote:
Sharkey wrote:
biker jk wrote:
So Wiggins and Froome have a few things in common. Such as walking up climbs. :lol:


As well as a sudden change from pretender to contender.

Nah - walking up climbs to riding up climbs to smashing all comers up climbs - that's just incremental improvement. :wink:


I rode past some very fit people (ie. real athletes) on Sunday (Newcrest Orange) who were walking up the final climbs. My glycogen stores were also long gone (damn it!), but in addition to training loaded, I also train depleted.

And even Cadel bonked in his first Grand Tour (Giro?).

But I do find the transformations from "elite" to "world class" for W & F a bit hard to understand.

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Postby g-boaf » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:37 pm

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:If caffeine ever did return to the prohibited substances list, it would be with a minimum blood concentration level before being considered doping. IOW drinking your regular morning latte is never going to be classified as doping.


My regular morning coffee is more like three espressos before 9:30am. :lol: :shock: I know, not good...

It won't affect me anyway, and I do know the sorts of things you are talking about.

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Postby tallywhacker » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:12 pm

no need to actually drink it anymore with these

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Postby trailgumby » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:34 pm

Interesting incidental commentary from the player at the centre of the scandal on how easy it is to avoid drug testing in the NRL.

Sounds like the NRL is stuck where cycling was from 1998-2008.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... uw66e.html

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Postby biker jk » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:36 pm

An interesting article on Froome's doctor who worked for Astana and had Vinokourev as a client.

https://goo.gl/I5exJe

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Postby fat and old » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:16 pm

For all the talk of Sky these days (which is highly entertaining :lol: ) ......I read in the Cycling News Paris-Nice wrap up yesty

As Contador warmed down on the rollers, a shake of the head and consolation pats on the back from Richard Virenque and Christian Prudhomme......


:lol: :lol: Tour of renewal indeed. Nice to see all is forgiven for Virenque. Who could forget the heaving sobs and platitudes post Festina from the big sook? :lol:

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Postby biker jk » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:23 pm

fat and old wrote:For all the talk of Sky these days (which is highly entertaining :lol: ) ......I read in the Cycling News Paris-Nice wrap up yesty

As Contador warmed down on the rollers, a shake of the head and consolation pats on the back from Richard Virenque and Christian Prudhomme......


:lol: :lol: Tour of renewal indeed. Nice to see all is forgiven for Virenque. Who could forget the heaving sobs and platitudes post Festina from the big sook? :lol:


Yes, Virenque, with the bleached hair to beat the rumoured EPO hair test of the period.

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Postby biker jk » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:18 pm

"Dr. Ferrari found guilty of doping by Italian court". Better late than never I guess, although it didn't involve a cyclist. :roll:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/dr-ferrari-found-guilty-of-doping-by-italian-court/

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Postby MichaelB » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:40 pm

Piti about the FW result overnight .... :evil:

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Postby find_bruce » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:28 pm

MichaelB wrote:Piti about the FW result overnight .... :evil:
It was just that one time :roll:

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Postby MichaelB » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:45 am

find_bruce wrote:
MichaelB wrote:Piti about the FW result overnight .... :evil:
It was just that one time :roll:


Never even admitted that !!

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Postby MichaelB » Fri May 05, 2017 11:03 am

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/giro-ditalia-two-bardiani-csf-riders-positive-in-out-of-competition-control/

"Stefano Pirazzi and Nicola Ruffoni of Bardiani CSF have returned positive tests in out-of-competition doping controls, the UCI confirmed Thursday. Both riders were slated to start the Giro d'Italia "

Oops .... :roll:

Interesting to see if Bardiani CSF can still start (given the late notice) and if so, who replaces Pirazzi & Ruffoni ?

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Postby biker jk » Fri May 05, 2017 11:14 am

MichaelB wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/giro-ditalia-two-bardiani-csf-riders-positive-in-out-of-competition-control/

"Stefano Pirazzi and Nicola Ruffoni of Bardiani CSF have returned positive tests in out-of-competition doping controls, the UCI confirmed Thursday. Both riders were slated to start the Giro d'Italia "

Oops .... :roll:

Interesting to see if Bardiani CSF can still start (given the late notice) and if so, who replaces Pirazzi & Ruffoni ?


So fitting for the 100th edition of the Giro.

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Postby find_bruce » Fri May 05, 2017 11:55 am

MichaelB wrote:Interesting to see if Bardiani CSF can still start (given the late notice) and if so, who replaces Pirazzi & Ruffoni ?

Bardiani CSF hope to remain in Giro d'Italia despite doping positives
The team face a 15-45 day suspension for having two doping positives in a 12-month period under the UCI rules, but their ban needs to come after a meeting of the UCI's Disciplinary Commission, which could be weeks off.
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Should the Bardiani-CSF team start the Giro d'Italia on Friday morning as they indicate, they will only be allowed seven riders, as the time to name substitute riders has expired.

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Postby MichaelB » Fri May 05, 2017 12:24 pm

Didn't read that close f_b - Only thing is will RCS let them start ?

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Postby MichaelB » Fri May 05, 2017 12:25 pm

biker jk wrote:
So fitting for the 100th edition of the Giro.


Fitting both were Italian too !!

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:21 pm

Playing a naff app on the phone, 'Word', with the aim to make lotsa words out of 6 letters.

Had to laugh at the irony when this combo popped up

O P D K S E - how many bike related words come out of that .......

spoked
dopes
spoke
pose
dose
epos
peds
poe
ped

:roll:

Amazing how many are related to artificial enhancement ...

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Postby find_bruce » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:04 pm

UCI have finally got around to suspending Bardiani CSF - despite the bleating from the team about the 30 day suspension, it seems they will miss just one major race, the tour of Austria

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