Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby find_bruce » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:20 am

Seems EPO is still out there
cyclingnews.com wrote:The UCI has confirmed that new Euskaltel-Euskadi recruit Alexander Serebryakov returned an adverse analytical finding for EPO, according to Tuttiobiciweb.it.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby reefer » Wed May 01, 2013 7:43 am

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby biker jk » Wed May 01, 2013 9:25 am

reefer wrote:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-01/doctor-convicted-over-doping-in-cycling/4661644


Unfortunately the judge ruled that the identity of the blood bags can't be revealed so another cover up really. Fuentes gets a slap over the wrist. Spain's cheating cyclists, footballers and other sportspeople a protected species.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby familyguy » Wed May 01, 2013 11:14 am

article wrote:Fuentes was charged under public health laws because doping was not illegal in Spain at the time.


OK, this I get. Statute of limitations applies, locally anyway. I'd bet WADA are annoyed.

article wrote:Judge Santamaria resisted pressure during the trial to provide the names of athletes implicated in the scandal.


Whats at risk? Spanish cyclists, football (2010 World Cup, 2008 and 2012 UEFA champs?), basketball (2008 and 2012 Olympic silver??) What else?

article wrote:She also refused to give the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) or any other anti-doping authority access to the 211 blood bags seized in the raids.


I'd bet WADA are more annoyed...

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Wed May 01, 2013 11:17 am

biker jk wrote:
reefer wrote:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-01/doctor-convicted-over-doping-in-cycling/4661644


Unfortunately the judge ruled that the identity of the blood bags can't be revealed so another cover up really. Fuentes gets a slap over the wrist. Spain's cheating cyclists, footballers and other sportspeople a protected species.

While the Doctor is Spanish, the clients were from many nations.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Tokyochiq » Sat May 18, 2013 12:12 am

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:While the Doctor is Spanish, the clients were from many nations.


I think they gave those athletes up initially and they came from the cycling world.

The spanish tennis players and soccer players though - well that's another story
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Chuck » Fri May 24, 2013 7:13 pm

Di Luca gets popped again....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/danilo- ... ve-for-epo

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby biker jk » Fri May 24, 2013 7:40 pm

Chuck wrote:Di Luca gets popped again....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/danilo- ... ve-for-epo

Not the sharpest tool in the shed.


He was on EPO and still couldn't win stages despite his attacks. What does that say about the guys beating him? So much for a cleaner peloton. :roll:
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby MichaelB » Fri May 24, 2013 8:20 pm

Must be related to Ricco .....

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby find_bruce » Fri May 24, 2013 8:42 pm

biker jk wrote:He was on EPO and still couldn't win stages despite his attacks. What does that say about the guys beating him? So much for a cleaner peloton. :roll:

With Di Luca only having 2 days of racing prior to the Giro I don't think it says much about the guys beating him.

I can understand the suspicion though - just too many positives to take anything on trust & words & passing tests prove nothing
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby find_bruce » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:40 am

Here was I thinking that Santambrogio had returned to some form in the Giro after doing nothing on BMC but he was just cheating

Santambrogio suspended by UCI for epo positive
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby MichaelB » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:51 am

find_bruce wrote:Here was I thinking that Santambrogio had returned to some form in the Giro after doing nothing on BMC but he was just cheating

Santambrogio suspended by UCI for epo positive


Sigh.

And maybe that's why he was let go from BMC ..... ?

Interesting that he kept riding after DdL got popped, but he was pretty quiet and hoping he wouldn't get popped.

Sad day indeed. Again
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Postby biker jk » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:01 pm

It's a pity that Evans' mechanical saw him drop to third from second in the Giro since there's always the chance that Nibali gets popped (rumours are circulating of a positive).
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby MarkG » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:29 pm

Lol yeah OK..
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:09 am

Also heard of Nibali possibly being EPO+ in the first week of the Giro this arvo. The way it's going Cadel just has to beat Cav over the Alps and the TDF is his. Everyone else will have been booted after the Prologue.
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:15 am

Cheer up guys.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby MichaelB » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:50 am

The 2nd Womble wrote:Also heard of Nibali possibly being EPO+ in the first week of the Giro this arvo. ......


Hope that's not true .....
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:03 am

MichaelB wrote:
The 2nd Womble wrote:Also heard of Nibali possibly being EPO+ in the first week of the Giro this arvo. ......


Hope that's not true .....

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby jamesn184 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:07 am

just goes to show that santy much of missed his mid tour injection to keep that form all the way...
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby find_bruce » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:51 pm

Interestingly it seems WADA have come up with a better procedure for detecting EPO use
cyclingnews.com wrote:The UCI has now announced that [Serebryakov] also failed an out-of-competition control taken on 21 February 2012, after a further reanalysis "carried out in accordance with new WADA technical documents concerning the identification of EPO."

It is likely the same testing procedure and the ability to spot EPO use for longer in urine samples lead to the positive test of both Vini Fantini riders Danilo Di Luca and Mauro Santambrogio.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby find_bruce » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:24 pm

Ulrich confesses to blood doping :shock: :shock:

But of course it's not really cheating because everyone was doing it :roll: :roll:
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby ldrcycles » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:08 pm

FINALLY :roll: . Only took him 7 years to find his idea of a 'conscience'. "It wasn't cheating because everyone else was too"? I hate that attitude.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby MichaelB » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:04 am

I'm starting to read through the english version of Antione Vayers analysis of the major players in the TdF. It can be purchased electronically through Joomag and is called 21 Counts

Ends up downloading as a 50 Meg pdf file, 148 pages long.

REALLY interesting reading indeed.

No real surprises though, but some of the numbers (wattage) that some have been able to generate are just amazing !!! Seems to be w3ell put together and easy to understand.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:47 am

MichaelB wrote:No real surprises though, but some of the numbers (wattage) that some have been able to generate are just amazing !!! Seems to be w3ell put together and easy to understand.

Some of the wattage estimates are amazing(ly bad). Vayer does this stuff every year complete with the same mistakes, just this time it's compiled into a e-mag format.
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