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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:56 pm
by MattyK
warthog1 wrote:I am after a road disc fork with a 370-380mm axle to fork crown measurement for my Azzurri primo, that is now a commuter. It needs to have eyelets for a mudguard also.

the closest I can find so far is this It is very heavy, nice and cheap however which is a good thing.

Does anyone know of a reasonably priced, lighter alternative?

I have Nashbar's carbon fork, but it's a bit longer than you want. But I'm willing to bet the one you linked is also a bit longer than the claimed 370mm.
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10 ... 1___202441
FYI it's made by EVO and has been sold under a couple of different brands (though Nashbar only do the disc AND canti-stud version. The studs are not removable).

This is probably the best choice: (was mentioned about 20 pages ago, where have you been? :roll: :wink: )
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/evolution-a6 ... prod25964/

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:36 pm
by warthog1
MattyK wrote:
This is probably the best choice: (was mentioned about 20 pages ago, where have you been? :roll: :wink: )
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/evolution-a6 ... prod25964/


I haven't been interested until recently. Started trawling through this thread and it seems they are a rare commodity. Hadn't got to that page yet, thanks.

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:34 pm
by MichaelB
warthog1 wrote:
MattyK wrote:
This is probably the best choice: (was mentioned about 20 pages ago, where have you been? :roll: :wink: )
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/evolution-a6 ... prod25964/


I haven't been interested until recently. Started trawling through this thread and it seems they are a rare commodity. Hadn't got to that page yet, thanks.


They did a 25C version as well.

Be warned, the shipping from SJS is damned high. :shock:

Only place that I've seen it though

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:05 pm
by MattyK
MichaelB wrote:Oooooohhh ooohhhhh

Guess what :?: :?: :shock: :shock: 8) :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Road disc frame available from HongFu - FM166


Damn you, why am I now looking at the cheapest well-kitted bikes I can find to sacrifice as parts donors?

Seems the fork off this is also available - HongFu HF-FK166:
http://www.hongfu-bikes.com/html_produc ... k-288.html

But no mudguard mounts, and looks like tapered headset.

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:38 pm
by MichaelB
MattyK wrote: ...Damn you, why am I now looking at the cheapest well-kitted bikes I can find to sacrifice as parts donors?

Seems the fork off this is also available - HongFu HF-FK166:
http://www.hongfu-bikes.com/html_produc ... k-288.html

But no mudguard mounts, and looks like tapered headset.


With the impending arrival of my new frame, my Kona Honky Inc will be up for grabs. Either as a F&F or as a complete bike.

Fork on that is straight 1 1/8", and pretty close to road fork geometry, but with clearance to run 28C tyres easily and mudguard eyelets ...... :D

8)

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:56 am
by DaveOZ
I came across this photo on Brad McGee's twitter. The bike was assembled at my LBS (McGees). I thought some of you guys might like it. :shock:

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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:11 am
by MichaelB
Oooh, someone has some money to burn ....

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:09 pm
by MichaelB
MichaelB wrote:Oooooohhh ooohhhhh

Guess what :?: :?: :shock: :shock: 8) :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Road disc frame available from HongFu - FM166

http://www.hongfu-bikes.com/html_products/2013-Disc-brake-Road-Frame-287.html

Image

....


Even though it is Chinese New Year at the moment (or about to be), I got a reply from 'Martina' from DengFu (same frame and coding as HongFu !!)

Price for disc road frame fm166 is $520,include fork/frame/seatpost
fit for headset sizes 1 1/8"to 1 1/2",headset need $14

Pls note for sizes 54cm/56cm we have already put into production,it need wait some time have stocks,thanks!

Costs shipping to Australia is $70 by EMS.


So, anyone up for a new frame .... ?

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:31 pm
by MattyK
Not yet, but still curious to know the specs, geometry, weight etc.

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:51 pm
by MichaelB
MattyK wrote:Not yet, but still curious to know the specs, geometry, weight etc.


Supposed to be a FM-066 with disc mounts

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:58 pm
by MattyK
130mm dropout? and presumably a weight penalty?

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:48 am
by MichaelB
MattyK wrote:130mm dropout? and presumably a weight penalty?


No idea re rear spacing. Chinese New Year around the corner means that info may be a few weeks away.

FM-066 wasn't that heavy, but it will be interesting to see what the weight difference is

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:53 pm
by MichaelB
And, another brand pops up

This time a German supplier

http://apace-bikes.de/c1rd-carbon-disc- ... -prototyp/[url]


Image

(Stolen from WW forum)

Looks a bit like the FM-166 frame, but the rear stays are different. Some of the Di2 installation is good, but the battery mount is rubbish. Like the colour though :D

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:55 pm
by cobba
MichaelB wrote:
Looks a bit like the FM-166 frame, but the rear stays are different.


Looks exactly the same as the FM065 frame.

Image

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/693905668/New_design_high_quality_hongfu_road.html

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:39 pm
by MichaelB
Cool cobba, but what about a fork ?

Alibaba also lists a MT-MC115-D as well. Looks closer to FM-166, but isn't

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/737635969/Road_disk_brake_carbon_frame_2013.html

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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:32 pm
by cobba
MichaelB wrote:Cool cobba, but what about a fork ?


The fork on the Apace looks similar to the ECFK19 which is made by Enjoy, it has the same shaped postmounts and a cable attachment on the rear of the left leg.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/622484502/High_quality_carbon_fork_for_road.html
Enjoy doesn't have it on their website, maybe it's a new model.
http://enjoybicycles.com/product.asp?b_id=3&s_id=11

Here's another similar fork
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/684834030/700_C_carbon_road_bike_disc.html
That fork looks like it's probably made by Evo.
http://www.evo.com.tw/style/frame/templates1/product_detail.asp?lang=2&customer_id=1088&name_id=12804&content_set=color_1&rid=45251&id=337878

Another frameset similar to the HongFu - FM166
http://miraclebikes.com/products/path097/2013Discbrakeroadbike16233002/

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:52 am
by MichaelB
Looks like the pipeline is filling fast :D :D :D :D

Just need the hydraulic groupsets to go with it

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:29 am
by Crawf
Getting there, note front tyre clearance...

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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:12 pm
by Nobody
Crawf wrote:Getting there, note front tyre clearance...

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Yeah, I can easily visualize a stick or D shackle getting jammed in there before you do a superman impression down the road. :P

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:41 am
by cooperplace
MichaelB wrote:Looks like the pipeline is filling fast :D :D :D :D

Just need the hydraulic groupsets to go with it

yes, until we get the hydaulics, it's all still a problem.

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:18 pm
by MichaelB
cooperplace wrote:
MichaelB wrote:Looks like the pipeline is filling fast :D :D :D :D

Just need the hydraulic groupsets to go with it

yes, until we get the hydaulics, it's all still a problem.


The TRP Parabox that I have been using is a pretty good stopgap.

Especially for those that cant/wont afford a full new groupset

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:50 pm
by Crittski
yep, the paradox goes a long way to the full hydraulic dream setup, I agree.

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:48 am
by cobba
MichaelB wrote:I'm even looking at the M820/Zee caliper and wondering what the relative piston sizes are so that I can see if it will work with the Parabox m/cyl size. I like the idea of 4 pistons and a big pad :D
:roll:


Did you know that the Hope V-Twin disc brake system is available in two versions, a version with the 2 piston X2 calipers and a version with the 4 piston M4 calipers.

Hope V-Twin Remote Brake System - X2 Calipers
Hope V-Twin Remote Brake System - M4 Calipers

Hope V-Twin M4 on a tandem bike

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:11 am
by MichaelB
cobba wrote: Did you know that the Hope V-Twin disc brake system is available in two versions, a version with the 2 piston X2 calipers and a version with the 4 piston M4 calipers.

Hope V-Twin Remote Brake System - X2 Calipers
Hope V-Twin Remote Brake System - M4 Calipers

Hope V-Twin M4 on a tandem bike



Oooooooo, noice.

No, I didn't know !!

I see that from the tandem pic is it 4 piston Fr & rr, but the CRC link has no description.

It's not even on Hopes home page !!!

From another discussion, mainly re tandems

So that'll work nicely with the brifters normally seen with road bikes. However, as the remote master cylinder appears to be based off "Race" series brake (rather than the "Tech"), that also infers that the V-Twin has a disc limit of 160mm. However, it also means the V-Twin should be able to drive the M4 "all mountain" calipers, which Hope confirmed in an email it would work and that "some point in the future", they'll offer this as a standard options.


Anyone know what the piston size of the Hope X2 calipers are ?

Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:34 am
by Nobody
MichaelB wrote:Anyone know what the piston size of the Hope X2 calipers are ?

The 22mm piston size used by the XTs is fairly common and several other brakes, like Formula R1s and Hope X2s use pistons of the same diameter.

http://forums.mtbr.com/brake-time/shima ... 08363.html