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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby cooperplace » Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:53 pm

has anyone used the Tektro HyRd cable-operated hydraulic disc yet?
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Nobody » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:58 am

That's on my list for upgrades. Family finances are bit strained at present. Maybe September. If you get it earlier, could you please let us know what you think of it/them?
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby MattyK » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:14 pm

Nobody wrote:TRP have launched my kind of full hydro (no shifting) called the Hylex. They seem to be trying to corner every opportunity in the road disc brake market.

Hmm, I seem to have missed this way back when.
http://www.trpbrakes.com/category.php?p ... 6&subcat=0

Would go nicely on my proposed mutant drop bar conversion (front disc, rear v brake, hub gear; Hylex on the left, Versa VRS-8 on the right, and get used to the swapped lever positions...). Bit exxy though.

(Let's see how hard I can polish this turd 8))
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Marx » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:56 pm

cooperplace wrote:has anyone used the Tektro HyRd cable-operated hydraulic disc yet?


Yep, currently gracing my cBroadman CX Pro. Ride it everyday: commute, gravel, road & whatever else inbetween. Travelled 150kms on them so far. Had this CX bike since 2010 & travelled 15,000kms since new.

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Easy to fit - almost a straight bolt-off bolt-on swap out of my Avid BB7s.
TRP Hy/Rd come with 160mm rotors, Tektro rotors are thicker than Shimano or Avid rotors so its best to run the new ones.
More powerful & less effected by water/dirt, so you have the same braking performance regardless of conditions. Feels like the best calipers brakes used in ideal conditions.
TRP Hy/Rd run shimano XT DEore equiv pads, so replacement are easy to find (just buy Shimano pads).
Less lever throw required between fully off (no pad dragging on disk) to full-on, compared to cable disks. Also Cable disks still have a spoungy feel after you are hard down on the brake, wheres these Hy/Rd seem to keep adding pressure to the disk until it locks up.
Expencive though, I bought them because I ride this bike every day & have bitched about riding in the wet with Avid BB7s on more then one occasion (lemmetellya) so I can safely justify copping this sticker price (Jensens USA).
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Nobody » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:32 pm

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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby MichaelB » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:20 pm



Thats a good buy. And shipping aint bad at between $48 to $66.

I've had my Parabox for almost 2 years now and it's been bloody brilliant.
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby rheicel » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:24 pm

MichaelB wrote:


Thats a good buy. And shipping aint bad at between $48 to $66.

I've had my Parabox for almost 2 years now and it's been bloody brilliant.

I am now thinking of buying this. Someone please stop me! :)
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby jasonc » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:32 pm

rheicel wrote:I am now thinking of buying this. Someone please stop me! :)


I think the question for you should be
"am i going to go to 6870 or sram hydro" if not, well then go
that's if you want hydro of course
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby rheicel » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:44 pm

jasonc wrote:
rheicel wrote:I am now thinking of buying this. Someone please stop me! :)


I think the question for you should be
"am i going to go to 6870 or sram hydro" if not, well then go
that's if you want hydro of course

jasonc, thanks. That argument you put in there is enough to halt me. Although I am a SRAM fanboy, I have to admit that the looks of ultegra hydro is 1-billion times better than the sram hydro.
I'll see if I really want a disc brake on my roaddie first using a cheapo Tektro Lyra.
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Nobody » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:54 pm

MattyK wrote:
Nobody wrote:TRP have launched my kind of full hydro (no shifting) called the Hylex. They seem to be trying to corner every opportunity in the road disc brake market.

Hmm, I seem to have missed this way back when.
http://www.trpbrakes.com/category.php?p ... 6&subcat=0

Would go nicely on my proposed mutant drop bar conversion (front disc, rear v brake, hub gear; Hylex on the left, Versa VRS-8 on the right, and get used to the swapped lever positions...). Bit exxy though.
I was having a look at these on AEBike and it occured to me that these might be left or right hand specific levers for the front or back. Fine if you're going LH for front (USA style) but if I want RH for front it might be a problem. I'd probably have to buy a rear for that.
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby MattyK » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:44 am

They don't appear to list different left or right versions, and I can't see an installation manual anywhere...
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Nobody » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:58 am

MattyK wrote:They don't appear to list different left or right versions, and I can't see an installation manual anywhere...
The brake lever in the pic seems to indicate a RH version. I can't find a manual either. Probably just a matter of time...
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Marx » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:31 pm

MattyK wrote:They don't appear to list different left or right versions, and I can't see an installation manual anywhere...


Hi,
The left/right issue can be fixed by swapping the hydro lines as they exit the parabox main unit.
One issue (for me) with Parabox, was that I could not also run my ‘interrupter’ brake levers (on the tops).
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby MattyK » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:46 pm

Nobody wrote:The brake lever in the pic seems to indicate a RH version. I can't find a manual either. Probably just a matter of time...
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What makes you say that?

Marx wrote:The left/right issue can be fixed by swapping the hydro lines as they exit the parabox main unit.
One issue (for me) with Parabox, was that I could not also run my ‘interrupter’ brake levers (on the tops).

We are talking about Hylex, not parabox.

PS if you wanted cable to hydro conversion and interrupter levers, you can hack the cables to pull on some MTB levers. (have seen a video of this but googlefu is failing me)
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Nobody » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:58 pm

MattyK wrote:
Nobody wrote:The brake lever in the pic seems to indicate a RH version. I can't find a manual either. Probably just a matter of time...
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What makes you say that?
See how the writing on the top of the blade is offset to the right? Maybe I'm wrong, but from what I've seen dedicated drop bar brake lever blades are offset/angled for comfort these days. Also the cable inner is also offset inside the lever and marked as left and right even when it appears like a non-offset/angled bladed lever.

That one just looks like an offset/angled blade to me.
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby cooperplace » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:30 am

Marx wrote:
cooperplace wrote:has anyone used the Tektro HyRd cable-operated hydraulic disc yet?


Yep, currently gracing my cBroadman CX Pro. .


thanks for that. i've ordered some from Jenson.
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby singlespeedscott » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:24 pm

Went for a MTB ride this morning and jumped straight onto the road bike afterwards.

The difference in outright power from going from the Shimano XT Ice tech disc equipped Mtb to my Campagnolo calipers on the roadie was an eyeopener. Strangely though after about 1/2 an hour on the roadie I had adapted and it makes me wonder if I want discs on my road bikes. I didn't seem to miss the power of the disc and I have always found my Campagnolo calipers to have great modulation.
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Marx » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:39 pm

MattyK wrote:
PS if you wanted cable to hydro conversion and interrupter levers, you can hack the cables to pull on some MTB levers. (have seen a video of this but googlefu is failing me)


Hmm that would be more than a one-step bolt-on job that the TRP Hy/RD brakes are onto the end of the existing cable disks, me thinx.
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby MattyK » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:15 pm

Yes, but you get more hydro and less cable :)
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:59 pm

Marx wrote:
MattyK wrote:
PS if you wanted cable to hydro conversion and interrupter levers, you can hack the cables to pull on some MTB levers. (have seen a video of this but googlefu is failing me)


Hmm that would be more than a one-step bolt-on job that the TRP Hy/RD brakes are onto the end of the existing cable disks, me thinx.

Think there's a Hope conversion along this line... :?
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby MichaelB » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:42 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
Marx wrote:
MattyK wrote:
PS if you wanted cable to hydro conversion and interrupter levers, you can hack the cables to pull on some MTB levers. (have seen a video of this but googlefu is failing me)


Hmm that would be more than a one-step bolt-on job that the TRP Hy/RD brakes are onto the end of the existing cable disks, me thinx.

Think there's a Hope conversion along this line... :?


There is, but the Hope V-Twin is directly comparable to the TRP Parabox.

Although, the V-Twin is available with M4 calipers (4 piston), but then again, I've done that with the TRP Parabox already :mrgreen:
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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:45 am

Oh, I dunno Michael. To my eye the Hope system looks like it was knocked up in someones shed from modified existing tech while the Parabox appears to be an engineered system.

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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby MichaelB » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:34 am

Having held the Hope system in my hands, yes it doesn't look as slick as the Parabox, but the major gripes I have with the parabox is the Europe sided braking design (can accomodate aus version, but its a bodge) and the way the cables finish out the back. The hope is a bit neater in both respects.

Still works though :D
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The latest gagle of disc roadies from Eurobike 2013

Postby MichaelB » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:46 am

Some nice looking steeds in here

http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/eurobike-2013-gallery-13-disc-equipped-road-bikes

Here are a few new ones ....

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Re: Adding a front disc to a road bike !! And Now Hydro!

Postby Ross » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:12 pm

First Ride: the new Pinarello Dogma 65.1 Hydro +Video

Pinarello's Dogma 65.1 is now available with disc brakes and we've taken it for a spin

http://road.cc/content/news/92699-first ... -651-hydro

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