Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
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Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby Le Velo » Sat May 07, 2011 9:53 pm
Campagnolo?
SRAM?
Dura ace?
And why that choice?
As being a novice any input, recommendation and advise is welcomed
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby Nobody » Sat May 07, 2011 10:26 pm
Having said that, it is only a real benefit to build a bike if you know exactly what you want and you can't get that combination in a whole bike cheap enough. Some of my bikes would be considered quite strange to some people, but I usually build them for a particular purpose and riding style while trying to discard any preconceived ideas about what it should look like.
What are you going to use the bike for?
What road/path/trail conditions do you usually ride on?
How far do you ride each ride?
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby Le Velo » Sat May 07, 2011 11:21 pm
Roads riden on are the most common around the brisbane area, however will be doing a Brisbane to Sydney charity ride at the end of the year with some serious hills in it.
I don't commute and ride for pleasure (and pain )
a short ride is about 50k andnenjoy the regular 100k on the week end
On an average around 200 or more if permitted
To buy the complete bike pretty much sums it all but reason I asked was I found a great frame that I would like to import from France. I could probably get it with the gears on with no wheels but shipping will be a bit more costly
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby The Womble » Sat May 07, 2011 11:50 pm
But a new Campagnolo Record QS 10sp groupset, and spend more money on everything else IMO. Great value for money!
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Postby drubie » Sun May 08, 2011 11:10 am
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Postby Le Velo » Sun May 08, 2011 11:29 am
http://www.cktsuisse.ch/images/articles/88.jpg
Weight of the frame is 1,09kg
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Postby drubie » Sun May 08, 2011 12:12 pm
It already says "shimano" on it, so that makes the choice easy doesn't it?Le Velo wrote: Weight of the frame is 1,09kg
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby mitzikatzi » Sun May 08, 2011 12:24 pm
drubie wrote:It already says "shimano" on it, so that makes the choice easy doesn't it?Le Velo wrote: Weight of the frame is 1,09kg
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Postby The Womble » Sun May 08, 2011 1:11 pm
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Postby drubie » Sun May 08, 2011 3:14 pm
Well, yeah, but they make the worlds worst front derailleursThe Womble wrote:Campy compatible fishing rods? Campy don't stoop to fishing
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby Nobody » Sun May 08, 2011 8:38 pm
Are you sure you want an integrated seatpost? You won't be able to easily experiment with saddle height.Le Velo wrote:Here is a link of the frame photo
http://www.cktsuisse.ch/images/articles/88.jpg
Weight of the frame is 1,09kg
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby Le Velo » Sun May 08, 2011 9:44 pm
The size is made to fit .... I have stopped growing years ago so it should be ok but that is somethingnthat crossed my mind.Nobody wrote:Are you sure you want an integrated seatpost? You won't be able to easily experiment with saddle height.Le Velo wrote:Here is a link of the frame photo
http://www.cktsuisse.ch/images/articles/88.jpg
Weight of the frame is 1,09kg
Still undecided on the frame choice. They do have one with adjustable seat post also
Ultegra sound like a good across the NORAD options indeed, however already have that on the marine and is ok but looking for a step up I think
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby Nobody » Sun May 08, 2011 10:08 pm
Have you ever needed to change your saddle to a different model? As you probably know, they don't all come with the same rail to saddle top height. IMO the integrated seatpost frames are for serious racers with plenty of money to burn, or pros. You'll find it hard to sell if you ever need to and it should be difficult to modify if your idea of the perfect saddle height changes or you need to swap your saddle model during ownership.Le Velo wrote:The size is made to fit .... I have stopped growing years ago so it should be ok but that is somethingnthat crossed my mind.Nobody wrote:Are you sure you want an integrated seatpost? You won't be able to easily experiment with saddle height.Le Velo wrote:Here is a link of the frame photo
http://www.cktsuisse.ch/images/articles/88.jpg
Weight of the frame is 1,09kg
Still undecided on the frame choice. They do have one with adjustable seat post also
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby Le Velo » Mon May 09, 2011 7:18 pm
That's a very valid argument for the re-sale, never thought of that, and future choice of saddles also.
I'll keep looking into the options
Cheers
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby biker jk » Tue May 10, 2011 12:32 pm
Is the Campy copy of the Shimano electronic reel out yet?mitzikatzi wrote:drubie wrote:It already says "shimano" on it, so that makes the choice easy doesn't it?Le Velo wrote: Weight of the frame is 1,09kg
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby stuwillem » Wed May 11, 2011 5:45 pm
"I rode Shimano for many years, both Ultegra and Dura Ace... as soon as I could justify the cost I bought Campagnolo."
But... beware the high cost of some of the components... it's often best to mix to find the most affordable combination of quality and Value.
Record is best, Chorus is awesome, but most Centaur is pretty good too.
But the high end stuff can be a bit of a rip off.
My opinion.
Brakes - Centaur will do (and they'll be better than almost any Shimano)
Front Mech - Chorus (centaur 2011 are much better than previous, but Chorus is just that much better)
Cranks - Centaur alloy, cheap and good.
Rear mech - chorus for little carbon bits but centaur is still good.
Shifters - whatever you can afford - will come with cables.
Cassette - can even get veloce if you like.
Chain - Record hollow pin (usually only $50)
I have a beef with a lot of the Carbon and Titanium products going around now...
Carbon is great, but any inevitable stack will destroy your wallet.
Titanium is heller light, but it's a soft metal and will warp and stretch over time - you don't want this to happen to most of the parts that are actually made of titanium so I don't know why they bothered.
Keep an eye out for places selling 10sp gear... save whatever you can on components and spend the extra on wheels. It's ALL about the wheels.
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Re: Bike building from scratch .... Ay suggestions ?
Postby ironhanglider » Wed May 11, 2011 10:48 pm
Why would you import it from their French distributer? CKT is a Taiwanese company based in the far south of Taiwan (Rather than the central Taichung area where most bike stuff seems to come from.) They have an Australian Distributer listed on their website who is based in Maroochydore http://www.cktcycling.com.tw/html/front ... ory=310669 I very nearly bought a CKT frame when I was over there a few years ago. (I was primarily given a budget to buy a groupset & wheels to put on my good bike and didn't have enough for a sexy frame)Le Velo wrote:The bike will be used for road riding only
Roads riden on are the most common around the brisbane area, however will be doing a Brisbane to Sydney charity ride at the end of the year with some serious hills in it.
I don't commute and ride for pleasure (and pain )
a short ride is about 50k andnenjoy the regular 100k on the week end
On an average around 200 or more if permitted
To buy the complete bike pretty much sums it all but reason I asked was I found a great frame that I would like to import from France. I could probably get it with the gears on with no wheels but shipping will be a bit more costly
CKT also respond to emails if you contact them directly but some of the message does get a bit lost in translation.
Cheers,
Cameron
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