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McGuyver tool #2

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:11 pm
by tallywhacker
found that my headset press works for respacing the rear dropouts. This is set up to widen the spacing. Bolt in the dropouts, blocks on the inside, turn the righthand bolt. You can work out how to use it to close the space and install a headset.

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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:25 pm
by Mulger bill
Oooh clever :D

I think the rod in my press might be a bit thick to fit in Fionas dropouts, must duck out to the shed...

(Shhh, don't tell Richard that I've decided she'll be geared)

Shaun

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:33 pm
by europa
Mulger bill wrote:Oooh clever :D

I think the rod in my press might be a bit thick to fit in Fionas dropouts, must duck out to the shed...

(Shhh, don't tell Richard that I've decided she'll be geared)

Shaun
It's probably one of those horrible Giant things anyway

Richard

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:11 am
by Mulger bill
Giant :?: GIANT :?: Image As If I'd be seen dead on a Giant. Consider your self chastised young man. Image

I speak of course of Fiona, my lovely Italian maiden
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My decision is based on a ten minute hack around the CBD on a stealthy fixie that the owner kindly let me borrow at 2140ish a couple Fridys back. Scary experience, it would've been waaaaaaaaay worse if it was brakeless. He was kind or paranoid enough to follow me on Princess.

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Shaun

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:30 am
by Kalgrm
Hey! Where did you get them smilies?

Daaa-aad! He's got smilies. I want some too! Not FAIR :cry:

Cool McGyver work Tally. Have you seen what I can make with snot and matchsticks? 8)

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:36 am
by Kalgrm
Hey Shaun,

I hate to tell you this, but there's a kid trying to steal your bike. :shock:

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:51 am
by Mulger bill
You want smilies?

Google smilies, there's lots out there, host or hotlink with

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If I can get soddin' outlook to work, there'll be a prezzy in your inbox, if not, it will be soon. :wink:

Shaun

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:27 am
by Kid_Carbine
Mulger bill wrote: I speak of course of Fiona, my lovely Italian maiden
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Shaun
Fiona, what a delightfull Scotish name for an Italian bike, but I thought that you might have called her something like "Gina" [From Gina Romantica in 'After the Fox' or Gina Lolabrigida] or some other sensual Italian name.
After all, just imagine the handlebars without the brakes on them, They do have a certain 'feminine' profile to them don't you think?

Good to see that a bike that is designed for gears, being actually used with gears, as god intended instead of being morphed into some kind of bastardised Frankenstein fix-ie. That's what dedicated single speed frames are for.

Have a good Xmas.

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:23 am
by X-wing
That's what dedicated single speed frames are for.
And Bents... :roll:

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:10 pm
by Mulger bill
I don't think of bike names, they just appear somehow :?

The GLWs father was born in Belluno, but her name's Elizabeth. Go figure. (Not that she'll answer to anything but Liz.)

Anyone know where I can score a 1" threaded headset? The nasty galling in the Campy on Fiona don't want to polish out :x Reckon the Sugino Italian BB is FUBAR too. Damn.

Shaun

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:51 pm
by tallywhacker
I have an unused 1" threaded Tange Seiki. What headtube/crown race size you after ?
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:54 pm
by Kid_Carbine
Mulger bill wrote: Anyone know where I can score a 1" threaded headset? The nasty galling in the Campy on Fiona don't want to polish out :x Reckon the Sugino Italian BB is FUBAR too. Damn.
Shaun
Quite naturally, you mean that you want a Campy headset of course.

Are you sure that your headset is English threaded, or is it Italian threaded. Yes, there is a difference, ... it's small, but measurable.
If italian, then this mob may be helpful, although at those prices, it would be a port of call of last resort.
They have Campy B/B's with Italian cups for single, double or triple chainwheel cranksets in their 'Record/ Nuovo Record' listing.

This place may be able to help out with some headset parts if it can be saved with just a couple of bits.

Then again, perhaps THIS could be what you need.
Or THIS
Or best of all, ...THIS ONE I have one of these in my Lennie Rogers & my Morgan. Yummy.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:26 am
by Mulger bill
Headtube ID is 30mm, 1 3/8"
Steerer is 25.4mm, 1"

Underside of adjustable cup and lock nut both have "1"x24 TPI ENGLAND"

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Thanks for your help so far. :)

Shaun

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:40 am
by Kid_Carbine
What you have there my friend is the much revered Campagnolo Super Record headset, an item that befits a fine Italian steed.

Since all the load is normally borne on the lower race, it could probably be restored to service with a replacement crown race & lower head tube cup plus another set of balls, but unfortunately, I was not able to locate those parts after a quick search on the net, so you will probably need to replace the assembly. The last link in my last post looks good to me.
To be honest, if that fork really has an English thread [Italian is almost identical with a 5 degree difference in the angle of the threads themselves] then it may not be the original fork, but it sure looks good anyway.
Oops, THIS might be usefully if the price is right, but you would need to confirm all dimensions before making any rash decisions.

Personally, I think that now is the time to buy Record & Super Record parts as they have become much more affordable in good used condition, but their desirability is picking up & the pricing will go with it soon too.
I remember buying my Super Record headset new back in the 80's & it wasn't cheap.
In fact, I think that THIS and THIS and THIS and THIS and even THIS are worth a look at.

Ahhhh, what the hell, here's the whole flamin list & that's just the Super Record stuff.

Ooooh here's an Italian threaded Bottom Bracket but I don't know if the axle is for a single or a double.

Remember that you will need to confirm the dimensions with a seller if you choose the eBay route. Caveat Emptor.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:06 pm
by Mulger bill
Thanks for the offer, info and links fellers :D

You're right about wanting to keep it Kid, it is a thing of beauty.[touchwood]I'll put another tube of autosol through it and see how it goes [/touchwood]
If that's nogood, I'll ebay a new lower cup and head race.

The BB spindle is 115mm, I thought that was for triples :?

Seeing this is the MacGyver thread, what's a good way to knock out the cups without damaging them?

Shaun