Better "grease life" for the bearings??

[mick243]

True about the vaso - but when you have already degreased your bearings and need to get to he nearest supply of quality lubes - it's far better than running dry, it did work fine, would I use it if I had an alternative, no. Yes I think the Castrol (and valve line equivalent) boat wheel bearing greases worked best for wet weather riding.

[Mulger bill]

HTB on everything higher than the bottle cage bolts, boating grease for everything below.

That's only because I'm trying to get rid of the HTB, methinks the tub of each I have will see me out.

[Rob74]

Have picked up some Morey's greases to try

Moreys-super-red-premium-EP2-waterproof-grease
Tech Data Sheet Moreys-super-red-premium-EP2-waterproof-grease
Timken OK Load = 32kg Minimum
$16 for 500g Tub

Have done the commuter hubs with it…..It is actually "translucent Red" in colour….the consistency is similar to Vaseline ie lighter than Castrol Boating Grease BUT very very tacky…the Shimano 105 hubs spin very smoothly with it......will see how it goes.

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Also picked up some of this to try
MOREYS RED-i WATERSPORT MARINE GREASE
Tech Data Sheet RED– i WATERSPORT MARINE UTILITY GREASE
Timken OK Load = 39kg Minimum
$18 for 500g Tub
Its Blue in Colour and appears of similar consistency to Castrol Boating Grease

I'll try it out on the Cyclocross bike for Comparison.

Rob

[PatNZ]

I just use Marine trailer bearing grease. Does the job well and its cheap.

[Rob74]

RE PatNZ » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:02 pm
"Marine trailer bearing grease" is a very generic description.

Which Brand? & Type?...

Rob

[Rob74]

Noticed that Repco now has a new stockline item (AT) 30% off for NRMA members bought a tub to try = $10 ish so its cheaper than the Morley's similar price to the old Castrol Marine.
Penrite Marine Grease - Lithium Complex - NLGI2
500g
Product Code: MARGR0005
Green in Colour
NLGI Grade 2
Drop Point, °C 275
Base Oil Viscosity, ISO 220
Timkin OK Load, kg 23
4-ball Weld Load, kg 315
Continuous Operating Temperature, °C -15 to +170
Maximum Temperature, Intermittent use, °C 180.

Full strip & build of Bianchi rigid MTB done will see how it stands up.

Rob

[hedgehog]

i just wish that bicycle part manufacturer's put grease nipples on hubs,
so i don't have to pull things apart.

cheers
tony

[Tim]

i just wish that bicycle part manufacturer's put grease nipples on hubs,
so i don't have to pull things apart.

I do recall seeing bike hubs and bottom bracket grease nipples on older bikes from my childhood.

[hedgehog]

bb not a problem,i just plunge the grease down the seat post.

[Roinik]

I've used my fair share of Castrol blue marine gease. I tend to use it in hubs with coaster or band brakes. All the rest of my hubs, headsets, bottom brackets and pedals get a liberal dose of Pro-Ma MBL grease. That grease is something else entirely. Wearing metal parts get coated with a pseudo whitemetal coating that protects the steel, even when there are abraisives present. Good racing bike grease has a similar design by utilising copper. Pro-Ma uses lead, tin and copper. The grease base is a good lithium grease similar to the marine grease.

[Rob74]

Pro-Ma MBL grease
NLGI Grade 2
Drop Point, °C 280
Base oil viscosity ISO ?
Timkin OK Load, kg 25
4-ball Weld Load, kg 250
Continuous Operating Temperature, °C -40 to +205
Maximum Temperature, Intermittent use, °C 280.

Pro-Ma MBL grease
Spec Data

450g = $25.30 + shipping
2.5kg = $125

ok Roinik - something else to try if I can find it locally. Where do you suggest to purchase?

Rob

[Roinik]

Pro-Ma has a few places that stock it. Ask on the website. Alternatively you might want to check out whether things like the Caltex moly grease and anti seize greases, KoprKote or MolyKote greases suit your needs. I'm not a grease expert, merely an observant backyard hack.

[Dragster1]

Castrol HTB grease would be more than enough for a bike, you can get over 40000kms on an automotive wheel bearing between bearing services. Maintenance is the key to long life of bearings, continually cleaning out wheel bearings and adjusting them will give you the longest service life.

[Roinik]

I usually find that headset, pedal and bottom bracket bearings are often the neglected cousins that end up with most damage due to lack of attention.

[hedgehog]

yep dragster1 got a good point.plus no matter what grease you put, the real problem is setting the cone pressure.
on my car hubs i use a nm ratchet 3nm loosen then 1.5nm re tighten, on i bike ? i do the best i can not to over tighten
at the same time no side movement.

[Lurkin]

Moreys red ordered. $20 on ebay for 450g? definitely cheaper than shimano!

[Rob74]

Re Dragster1 “Castrol HTB grease would be more than enough for a bike…Maintenance is the key to long life of bearings, continually cleaning out wheel bearings and adjusting them will give you the longest service life.”

The problem with HTB is that it is bentone clay based & suffers washout/goes milky white for both my off road MTB & my all weather commuter. Push bike cup & cone bearings are not a “sealed bearing” despite the two fibre washers in Shimano 105 type cones that attempt to seal between the cone and the outer hub grease cup.

My experience has been that a Marine Grease offers superior performance over HTB, you just need to chose one. However the flow point of the marine greases discussed above vary. I often transport a bike in a car, in doing so the bike may be exposed to above 60 degrees and observe some extrusion of grease around the two fibre washers in Shimano 105 type cones that attempt to seal between the cone and the outer hub grease cup.

Finding a Marine Grease that is reasonably priced is the key. Castrol Marine Blue was used by many due to being readily available and relatively low cost, but it is no longer available, so this thread has become about what others are using and service experience.

Re Hedgehog “setting the cone pressure”
Agree that setting cone pressure is very important, noted also that QR Skewers put additional compression and making allowance for this is important.

Rob

[Dragster1]

"Castrol HTB"
It lasts in automotive wheel bearings for over 40000kms if you are having trouble with it something is very wrong. I used it for years without problems.

Are you using a pressure cleaner on your bike or aiming the hose into your wheel bearings ?

[Nate]

I'd have a look here: http://dumondetech.com/products/

Their chain oil is INSANELY good & i'll be getting their greases next

[hedgehog]

thank you rob74,i really think it is important.

[mitzikatzi]

..snip..

Finding a Marine Grease that is reasonably priced is the key. Castrol Marine Blue was used by many due to being readily available and relatively low cost, but it is no longer available, so this thread has become about what others are using and service experience.
..snip..

Rob

The just changed the name "marine grease" is now called http://www.castrol.com/en_au/australia/ ... -duty.html

from viewtopic.php?f=34&t=91227&p=1363281&hi ... e#p1363281

[Rob74]

Back to post after all but 12mths of testing in Daily Commuter (just on 8,000kms), nominal twice weekly Off road MTB (just on 1,500km), a couple of Sunday cruiser SFRBs (just on 1,500km on two bikes), local shop cruising panniers bike (just on 400km) etc

Noting previous post above "Rob74 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:44 pm
Moreys-super-red-premium-EP2-waterproof-grease
Tech Data Sheet Moreys-super-red-premium-EP2-waterproof-grease
Timken OK Load = 32kg Minimum
$16 for 500g Tub"
"translucent Red" in colour - Grease BUT very very tacky…the Shimano 105 hubs spin very smoothly with it......will see how it goes.

=>> I have switched to running Moreys-super-red-premium-EP2-waterproof-grease "translucent Red" in colour in all my bikes....Road Bike, Commuter, MTB etc. Its performance WRT washout & placed in car heated extrusion leaves it as the standout.

** Thanks very much to Bosvit per “bosvit » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:34 am “ for the heads up*** …very impressed with this stuff it is a considerable improvement over the last of my Castrol Marine Blue Grease.


Rob

(No affiliation with with Morey's or any other, just very pleased with the results)

[Lurkin]

I have used the moreys red on lesser value/older bikes, in headsets, cranks, and wheel bearings. All have been fine after a decent amount of distance, but after regreasing the same wheelset with Shimano Durace grease, there is a distinctive difference between the 'freedom' the wheel will spin at. Could not identify any notable decrease in bearing ball size with a digital vernier.

I think I'll continue to use the moreys on the older bikes, but back to Shimano for the newer stuff.