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Postby janus77 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:08 am

So after tinkering with the new bike last night (it's dissembled at moment), I realised that if I'm ever going to learn to do more than change a tyre or tighten a bolt, I might need more than a set of allen keys and bike pump..

My question at this stage is, I have 1 bike running Shimano, and another bike with Campag gear. Are the tools universal, or do I need to buy different sized spanners etc? Which tools are universal and which aren't? I was looking at this tool kit, but the shop reckons they're not campag compatible:

http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/SBTOKNN95

Seems like a good basic kit with everything I'd need, expensive to buy tools individually.

Any advice apprecaited, cheers :)
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by BNA » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:49 am

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Postby Jean » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:49 am

A basic toolkit should have the right range of spanners, allen keys etc, but in regards to more specialist tools (such as for removing the bottom bracket or cassette lockring) will most likely be set up for Shimano. If you're keen on the basic kit buy it and just pick op the few extra tools you'll need for the Campagnolo stuff. Or just do the sensible thing and throw out the Shimano and go all Campagnolo 8) .

A set of metric allen keys will probably strip about 80% of what you need to get off. Then you could either take it to a LBS for the headset and BB, or just buy the few tools you need to do those bits. The rebuild will require just another tool or two on top of this (eg. cable cutters).

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Postby janus77 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:52 am

thks :)
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Postby familyguy » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:00 pm

That looks real similar to mine. Not that brand, but they're all pretty much a rebranded one-make anyway at that sort of price.

I totally stripped an 80's steel bike (except headset cups and race) with a tool kit just like that one, and that includes cup and cone BB, repacking hubs and truing wheels.

Things you'll probably find you cant do with that kit:
get headset cups out
external bearing type BB's
campy lockring and older style campy BB's

Pretty much every BB has a new spanner these days, so if you're changing them a lot, grab another spanner. If you use Campy bits, that plus a suitable BB/lockring tool should see you capable of doing nearly everything.

BBB Parts make a Campy or Shimano specific tool kit, which swaps the lockring and BB spanners for the relevant models. I've got a few of their tools, and they're great quality for the price.

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Postby janus77 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:36 pm

thanks for the info Jim
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Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:02 pm

The bigger version of the tool kit is actually on special for those who receive their newsletter. You can get to it via this link:

http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/SBTOKNN98

I'm ordering mine today.
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Postby janus77 » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:20 am

Hehe, i just ordered mine too.
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Postby familyguy » Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:10 pm

Must...resist...temptation...uunnnhhhhhgggghhh...
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Postby m@ » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:12 pm

Ordered - thanks for the link David!

Don't resist, familyguy, come over to the dark side :twisted:

This is about 1.5x what I pay for a service at the LBS. Value for money in anyone's books!
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Postby LuckyPierre » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:46 pm

Jean wrote:... Or just do the sensible thing and throw out the Shimano and go all Campagnolo 8) ...

I haven't read all of this thread - and I don't need to any more. Thanks Jean! :D
ps. while you're summoning up the courage (I still haven't), you'll probably find that the only thing that you'll need is a Campagnolo bottom bracket tool. Those sensible Italians designed things so that the bottom bracket and cassette lockrings are the same spline pattern and things like crank removers, pedals spanners, chain whips etc. are universal. At least, they are on 9-speed components. :wink: :wink:
pps. I've used a Shimano 9-speed cassette tool on a Campagnolo cassette successfully, albeit with much trepidation and great care.
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Re: Bicycle tools

Postby Tubular Swells » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:54 pm

Does anyone know if in the Basic Kit, does that bottom bracket lockring spanner also work on track cog lockrings?

Does the second bigger verson even have an old school lock ring tool?
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Postby m@ » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:58 am

The smaller kit is now on sale for $50...
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Postby janus77 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:25 am

ordered mine Friday, guess it should be here by Friday this week.. something's going on with my BB I think, will be good to have the tools to pull it apart and have a look :D
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Postby Crawf » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:00 pm

janus77 wrote:ordered mine Friday, guess it should be here by Friday this week.. something's going on with my BB I think, will be good to have the tools to pull it apart and have a look :D


Got mine today :D
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Postby janus77 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:42 pm

when did you order?
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Postby m@ » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:44 pm

Broken the chain breaker yet Jacobite? ;)
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Postby Crawf » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:34 pm

janus77 wrote:when did you order?


The day bigfriendlyvegan posted the link - June 5
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Postby janus77 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:02 pm

Mine just arrived too :D
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Postby janus77 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:21 pm

how the hell does an "inner cable puller" work?
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Postby janus77 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:24 pm

don't worry, I see now.
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Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:14 pm

I got mine too :) AND a $20 gift voucher. Which is good, because they have a 48 hour special on some low end road tires and tubes. Only problem is I just bought a Giant Mountain Bike and the minister for finance is now wondering why I need so many two wheeled vehicles. I think I'll have to get rid of 2 of the 3 mountain bikes but, damn it, I'm keeping the roadies.

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