Adding Weight to a Bike - Training

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Adding Weight to a Bike - Training

Postby TZ2102 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:59 pm

Hi All,

What is the best way to make your road bike heavier...?

- Would like to avoid a backpack
- Was thinking of trying to put lead pellets in a water bottle - but its only about 7kg.

What is the best way?

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Re: Adding Weight to a Bike - Training

Postby ozdavo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:10 pm

I wouldn't trust 7kg in a a bottle cage. If you want more than w few kg's I'd recommend a weight vest. May not be the most comfortable, but your not going to damage your bike.

The other option is a heavier/less aero/more rolling resistance bike... But really why do you want to add weight? You can just as easily ride to the same effort on a lighter bike.


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Postby cyclotaur » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:32 pm

Ride up bigger/longer hills.
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Postby TZ2102 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:36 pm

ozdavo wrote:I wouldn't trust 7kg in a a bottle cage. If you want more than w few kg's I'd recommend a weight vest. May not be the most comfortable, but your not going to damage your bike.

The other option is a heavier/less aero/more rolling resistance bike... But really why do you want to add weight? You can just as easily ride to the same effort on a lighter bike.


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So you can go with people that are not as fast.

I am running an aluminium frame...I've heard there have been pro's who filled up water bottles with lead shot even to go down hills faster (apparently) but mostly for training.

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Postby jacks1071 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:42 pm

Dive belt
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Postby Philipthelam » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:10 pm

TZ2102 wrote:
ozdavo wrote:I wouldn't trust 7kg in a a bottle cage. If you want more than w few kg's I'd recommend a weight vest. May not be the most comfortable, but your not going to damage your bike.

The other option is a heavier/less aero/more rolling resistance bike... But really why do you want to add weight? You can just as easily ride to the same effort on a lighter bike.


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So you can go with people that are not as fast.


If you are riding with friends, why not just ride slower and enjoy the ride?

I am not sure extra weight will help you much. I ride with at times 12+ kg spread over a back pack and panniers on my commute. You are a bit slower on climbs but once up to speed it's not much different and going downhill you go faster. Having too much weight on your body gives you a sore back. Somehow adding resistance would probably be better although i am not sure how you would do that.

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Postby ironhanglider » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:20 pm

You can add a couple of kg of water to your tubes. Just make sure there is a bit of air though, because the incompressible nature of water might damage your rims if you hit a large bump.

The other alternative is to go for a 50km ride first.

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Postby Nobody » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:41 pm

Just ride your DS MTB with the lockouts off and 20psi in the tyres.

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Postby trailgumby » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:32 am

There are lots of options

Take long turns at the front. Let them follow in your slipstream.
Arrange to meet somewhere away from home. They drive to the meeting point. You ride there, and back home again. (This is what I do.)
Organise a picnic at the end of the ride. Volunteer to carry the heavy stuff in your panniers.
Buy a Fatbike
Wear a Fat Suit
Get a BoB trailer and take the dog with you for the ride
Buy a unicycle
Tow a small parachute
Tow a small child on a trailer bike
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Postby jasonc » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:30 am

pro-lite como + schwalbe marathon plus in the biggest size that will fit in your frame.

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Postby TZ2102 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:25 am

jacks1071 wrote:Dive belt


Just thinking this would be a potential injury hazard!

I am not sure extra weight will help you much.


Did a few rough calculations...with an extra 10kg up a 6% climb would require and extra 10-15% watts to record the same time over 1km.

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Re: Adding Weight to a Bike - Training

Postby TZ2102 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:28 am

TZ2102 wrote:
jacks1071 wrote:Dive belt


Just thinking this would be a potential injury hazard!

I am not sure extra weight will help you much.


Did a few rough calculations...with an extra 10kg up a 6% climb would require and extra 10-15% watts to record the same time over 1km.


Actually, do dive belts go around your waist & not your back? if so that could work, how much is the cost?

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Postby lobstermash » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:33 am

Get a fixie!
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Postby Saturnstarzz » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:12 am

Ride more.
OR do what I do ride another bike if you have one (in my case its the single speed MTB to work everyday 15kms each with some hills ).
Weekend rides get a heavier wheelset with tyres that have a high rolling resistance.

But the cheapest way is to ride more and ride further even go out and train by yourself if you see a bunch down the road push yourself to catch up, then take turns on the front.
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Postby TZ2102 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:18 am

Yep, I do usually ride by myself, Just when I go with the friend I want something to slow me down but would prefer to be on the same bike (same feel & fit I guess). Did think about an MTB but don't wanna fork out a lot of cash. Rather save up for something good!

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Re: Adding Weight to a Bike - Training

Postby DoogleDave » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:37 am

Wouldn't it just be easier to:
- put the bike in an easy gear and spin, and
- ride BEHIND your friends, so you don't keep rolling off the front?

If you can't do this then you either need to get new friends to ride with or accept that your friends can't keep up with you so do the sociable thing and ride slower (if it is a sociable ride).

Depending on the speed difference between yourself and your friends, you may need to add a ridiculous amount of weight to slow you down sufficiently....which would be ridiculous!

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Postby rheicel » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:50 am

The easiest way is to deflate your road bike tyre to 50PSI or less. Rolling resistance will slow you down.

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Postby trailgumby » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:29 pm

Encourage your friends to ride more. Then they will be faster and you will worry less about losing fitness. :)
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Re: Adding Weight to a Bike - Training

Postby duds2u » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:53 pm

Adjust your brakes so there is some drag. Guaranteed to make it harder.

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Re: Adding Weight to a Bike - Training

Postby jacks1071 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:38 pm

TZ2102 wrote:
jacks1071 wrote:Dive belt


Just thinking this would be a potential injury hazard!

I am not sure extra weight will help you much.


Did a few rough calculations...with an extra 10kg up a 6% climb would require and extra 10-15% watts to record the same time over 1km.


They are fine mate, make sure you put it around your hips. I know a few coaches who've recommended them in the past.

You could also get some fishing sinkers, cut half way through them, fit to a spoke (as close to the rim as possible) and clamp it on with pliers - put multiple ones on each spoke if required. My dad used to balance his motorbike wheels this way back in the day - I don't think he ever lost a sinker.
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Re: Adding Weight to a Bike - Training

Postby Leiothrix » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:35 pm

Take the chain off the bike, put it in some degreaser to clean it up. Then soak it in some salt water for a few days before fitting it back on your bike.

Guaranteed to slow you down 8)

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Postby Duck! » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:38 pm

Leiothrix wrote:Take the chain off the bike, put it in some degreaser to clean it up. Then soak it in some salt water for a few days before fitting it back on your bike.

Guaranteed to slow you down 8)

And drive everyone within a 50km radius mad with the noise.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Postby Leiothrix » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:40 pm

That's a feature! It's an early waning system so people can hear you coming.

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Postby Duck! » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:48 pm

Bonus training feature: they'll ride harder to try to get away from the noise! :D
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Re: Adding Weight to a Bike - Training

Postby Ross » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:19 pm

Cyclocross wheels with knobby tyres?
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