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Mounting a pannier rack on bike without mounting lugs

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:19 pm
by thomas_cho
Hi there,
I am trying to mount a rear rack on my Kenevans bike which does not have mounting lugs.

I do not want to use seatpost mounted racks.

Are there alternative solutions?

Thanks

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:01 pm
by Mulger bill
I recall hearing around here that there's band clamps to go round the seatstay with holes for mounting bolts. Front of the rack to the seatpost binder? Anybody else got a better memory?

Shaun

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:19 pm
by mikeg
Metal P clamps with some heatshrink shrunk around then, or some innertube between the clamp and the seatstays would be the way to go.

An alternative I used was one top strap on a Topeak rack to a plastic reflector bracket around the seat tube.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:59 pm
by il padrone
Does the Ken Evans have drop-out mounts?

If so, and you want to avoid the possible marring of the frame finish using P-clamps, you could get yourself a Tubus Fly brake-stay mounted rack. This smaller Tubus rack is every bit as rigid as the Cargo, and heaps more solid than any Topeak/Blackburn-copy alloy rack. I've carried full-sized rear panniers on it, with a tent and sleeping mat on top, and it performed very well.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:18 am
by thomas_cho
Thanks for the tips.

The Ken does not have the drop out mounts. So I think I will try the P-clips. Are these readily available at Bunnings?

I have a friend who fashioned a brake caliper mount out of a metal ruler he bought at the $2 shops. I think I will try and P-Clips at the seat stay positions first.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:25 am
by rolandp
I've used the P-clamps, but they will eventually rub on the frame. I purchased mine at a bike store. They potentially are available at Bunnings, but by the time you spend the 1/2 hour trying to find them, it may be quicker at the bike shop.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:30 am
by kukamunga
...and five times more expensive (at least) at your LBS! :shock:

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:37 pm
by thomas_cho
Are P-clamps predominantly used in the electrical section?

Where do I even start to look for them in Bunnings?

Well I am not afraid to get rub marks on my bike ... as its just a rattle-can spray job.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:49 pm
by il padrone
These are what you're after. Wallbike are very helpful, so you could email them and see if they'll stick some in an postpack for you. Or a LBS may have these. I don't know whether Bunnings would have them... maybe.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:30 pm
by thomas_cho
I will ask at the LBS. I was just at bunnings, ended up buying something else!

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:40 pm
by munga
Sounds like an excuse to buy another bike!

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:46 pm
by thomas_cho
hahah no I just sold off one of mine. Hoping to sell off another. I am scaling down.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:02 pm
by DaveW
I wonder about the usefulness of some of the polypipe clamps for this?
The sort you use for reticulation.


they are normally less than a dollar each - but I haven't thought much about this - what diameter clamps, what sort of clamp would hold solid enough etc?

They are plastic but may still be had enough to scratch?

Just a thought! :wink:

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:25 pm
by thomas_cho
Okay bought some of those p-clips (LBS called them U-clips). LBS was pretty good, charged me $2 for 4 pieces. Will try them on tonight.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:21 am
by geoffs
There is another alternative.
I think Old Man Mountain makes a rack that fits onto the rear skewer as it's bottom mount and then uses p-clamps to attach to the seat stays.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:35 am
by il padrone
Standard Old Man Mountain racks are designed to attach to the V-brake/cantilever mounts. So if your Ken Evans has road cantis....

You could rig this up by just omitting the little right-angle mounting bracket.