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BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:31 pm
So the question is, are the ISIS cranks suitable, and if i need a bolt/bolts to reach that thread deep inside the axle, would the LBS be likely to have it?
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Re: BB30 question
Postby Duck! » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:23 pm
I'm decidely confused, do you have pics to enlighten the situation?
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Re: BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:34 am
These pics are from the seller, too dark to get pics myself atm. Ignore the scales, it's actually 1875g. Definitely BB30 sized shell.
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Re: BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:47 am
The badge on the seat tube says it's 6066 aluminium (which i've not seen before).
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Re: BB30 question
Postby Duck! » Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:03 pm
I see what you mean about the BB now, on a different 'poota with better resolution..... Must be a very early version to suit ISIS cranks. I've never seen that before.
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Re: BB30 question
Postby jasonc » Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:21 pm
http://kogelbearings.mysimplestore.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:43 pm
Bearings are the easy bit, as i can get any cartridge bearings (even ceramic) cheaply through my work. It's just a matter of fitting cranks to the existing setup if possible. If it turns out to be a no go then i can get a more normal arrangement for about $80, or just an adaptor to fit threaded BB options.jasonc wrote:problem solved:
http://kogelbearings.mysimplestore.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:01 pm
You can see in the last pic where the spindle would normally be machined out for standard ISIS bolts, i tried to show the thread deep down in the guts of it but you can't really see it.
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Re: BB30 question
Postby silentbutdeadly » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:40 am
I'm with KGB on the frame by the way...
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Re: BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:26 pm
That's the idea, but finding such bolts seems to be the difficult part.silentbutdeadly wrote:So all you need are longer threaded machine bolts to fit the cranks rather than traditional crank bolts?
+3 about the frame, it's a really nice bit of gear, should be a Strava weapon when i've eventually got it built up! That's why i'm persisting .
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Re: BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:06 pm
So i can confirm (though i was already certain) that the shell is BB30, and very nicely made. The bearings however were not BB30 (aka 6806) as the internal diameter was 27mm instead of 30. Looking closely at the axle i'm not sure anymore if it is threaded, if it is then the threads are very fine but maybe it's just machining marks, it's very hard to tell. In any case i'm now getting a quote for some 6806 bearings from my workplace supplier and then i'll fit adaptors for my Shimano Hollowtech cranks (as that will be about half the price of the cheapest BB30 crankset i can find).
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Re: BB30 question
Postby silentbutdeadly » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:01 am
One question though...what's the shell width on that frame?
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Re: BB30 question
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Re: BB30 question
Postby mitchy_ » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:38 am
Praxis didn't have a sram option when i had a GXP crank in a BB30 frame, so i went this. no creak, etc. and no requirement to press in bearings.kb wrote:I thinking of going Praxis myself. It's a little pricier but looks like a solid solution. https://praxiscycles.com/conversion-bb/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.enduroforkseals.com/id355.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:23 pm
Maybe the calipers i used to measure things when i removed the original bearings and axle were off, or who knows what, but i'm sure i measured both the O.D. of the bearings and the BB shell and came up with the right numbers. In any case, the bearings i have do not go even close to fitting, so time to do more measuring and double check.
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Re: BB30 question
Postby silentbutdeadly » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:18 am
It's the pile of dead bikes out the back that does it...ldrcycles wrote:Bloody hell, why do i seem to attract haunted bikes?
This might help...or not http://problemsolversbike.com/files/tec ... erence.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On the bright side...if you get this to work you might set a new standard!!
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Re: BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:18 pm
So would the Praxis/Enduro adaptor cartridges work with a BB shell that's 1.1mm oversize? I think that's about my only option, i'm an optimistic sort but i still think it's a bit beyond my capabilities (and those of the machinery i have available) to machine a shim that's only 0.55mm thick. Not to mention the odds of such an arrangement being creak-free.
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Re: BB30 question
Postby silentbutdeadly » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:00 am
Nope. I think if thee were me I'd be getting an adapter made to slide into your shell so you can fit conventional external cupsldrcycles wrote:So would the Praxis/Enduro adaptor cartridges work with a BB shell that's 1.1mm oversize?
Your other option is a threadless square taper BB like Velo Orange Grand Cru http://www.ucycle.com/product/velo-oran ... t-1438.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; or this http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/first-thread ... 2/?geoc=au" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (SJS Cycles do have others. If the compression rings in these is not the right size then get another pair made up
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Re: BB30 question
Postby silentbutdeadly » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:52 am
It is a FSA Megatech BB http://mbaction.com/product-tests/sept- ... t-standard" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and was used by Pinarello in their M.O.S.T. house brand components
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Re: BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:43 am
Could be a bit easier said than done though..
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Re: BB30 question
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:25 am
I went back to the LBS armed with the knowledge of what was needed and got them to contact the FSA distributor.
2 weeks later i hadn't heard anything so popped in to the shop, it turns out there were only 1 or 2 people at the distributor who had any idea what they were talking about, and they were just ignoring the emails and phone calls from the shop. The blokes at the shop suggested i contact them directly, as they have found in cases like this that customers don't get brushed off the way shops do.
So i emailed a certain company (not naming any names) asking if FSA Megatech BBs were still available. The response was "to suit what cranks" . So i detailed what a Megatech BB is and the next email was "can't help you, contact such and such as they are the new distributors, we only have some old stuff left".
So i emailed such and such and got a very quick reply- "Could you please be a little more specific with which bottom bracket that you are requiring.
There is not a Megatech BB in the FSA range. I am guessing that you may be enquiring about a Mega Evo unit." Sigh. Another email to explain what megatech is (hasn't anyone ever heard of google?) and another very quick reply.
Apparently they only took over the distribution 18 months ago, so haven't got any older stuff, and suggested going to a bearing shop (remembering that this size of bearing was a proprietary FSA thing, and as far as i can tell has never been available anywhere else).
So that's great.
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