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A new restoration project :) - All I need is the fat lady

Postby uncle arthur » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:09 am

The old guy next door has just yesterday given me an old Benotto steel frame roadie that he's had under the house as a resto project.

Lugged frame, Suntour down bar shifters and derailluers etc

I don't know much about Benotto (being new to cycling) so any background would be great.

It will be too big for me too - looks to be about a 56-58? so I'll very possibly put the finished article up here for any possible takers.

Pics to come.
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Postby cooper » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:54 pm

photos????
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Postby sillyboy » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:30 pm

Sounds like fun, good luck.
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Postby uncle arthur » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:10 am

cooper wrote:photos????


Later today.
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Postby cooper » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:49 pm

Later today.

:D
Look forward to it!
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Postby Boognoss » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:32 pm

It is later today yet? :lol:
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Postby X-wing » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:51 pm

Are we there yet?
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Are we? :lol:
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Postby uncle arthur » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:03 am

Here 'tis

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Postby munga » Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:39 am

nice find. any idea on the age of it yet?
if the cranks are original, you're looking at 78-84.
you can find a date code on Shimano stuff and check it (and maybe othr components) against http://www.vintage-trek.com/component_dates.htm
you certainly have your work cut out for you! 8)
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Postby cooper » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:55 am

:)
looks like lots of fun to be had there.
Are you looking at a full restoration or conversion?
I would be tempted to do a resto on it.
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Postby uncle arthur » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:19 pm

I'm undecided as to a full resto or conversion.

I (mostly) stripped it all down on Saturday morning - I have to remove the cranks (trying to find directions as to how and what tools I need).

The wheelset still rolls true and smooth, although they need a good cleanup - I've been directed to a mob who sandblast and powder coat for the frame, so I might get the wheels blasted too - the hubs have quite a bit of surface rust, as do the rims. The Suntour 5speed cassette has been removed from the rear, but it also rolls smooth. So I'm debating as to whether I keep it 5 speed, or update the wheelset and cassette and keep the downtube shifters.

I'll also be looking for some new brake hoods - anyone know where I might track down some more of the Weimanns?

Once it all starts to go together, I'll be getting out the rollmop on the bench grinder, and a polishing (alloy) I will go..... :)
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Postby uncle arthur » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:10 am

So I'm after some advice on going about this resto.

I've done a bit of searching to try and find out how to remove those cranks from the frame. Does the centre cap screw out or prise out and does it require a special tool??

Also - does anyone know where I might track down some new brake lever hoods, because the ones on there are perished to all hell.

Last - what do you guys think about the wheelset/cassette - should I maintain it, or upgrade it?
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Postby winona_rider » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:17 pm

i am probably not the one to consult here - but you need to get the dust cover off, then use a crank puller to loosen and remove crank arms, then that hooky tool to remove the lock ring around the BB, and from then on i'm not sure!

i have a crank puller and the lock ring tool if you wanna boz...

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these videos are great - specially chapter 2

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Postby geoffs » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:18 pm

center cap unscrews, unsrew the bolt and use a standard crank puller.
The shimano 600 cranks were the first flash bit of kit I bought for my apollo III many years ago.

good luck with it.
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Postby winona_rider » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:23 pm

re brake levers....
you could get new hoods - but this lever set from velo orange is brand new and only 24 bucks US...
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they are non-aero...
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Postby munga » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:05 pm

Mike, we can rip the cranks off when I pick up my chain whip if you like; I have a crank puller.
Does it have matching shimano derailleurs?
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Postby il padrone » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:15 pm

uncle arthur wrote:I'll also be looking for some new brake hoods - anyone know where I might track down some more of the Weimanns?


Try Loose Screws. They have them.
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Postby uncle arthur » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:34 pm

munga wrote:Mike, we can rip the cranks off when I pick up my chain whip if you like; I have a crank puller.
Does it have matching shimano derailleurs?


Derailleurs are Suntour Honor.

That will be great too (pulling the cranks off):)

This weekend perhaps? Just give me a call.

Cheers :)
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Postby uncle arthur » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:52 pm

Did someone say polished groupset?
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Postby Papa Campagno » Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:16 pm

Very nice and shiny, look awesome!
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Postby vx255 » Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:00 pm

Nicely done, gives great satisfaction to look at them after your arms have almost exploded from polishing bike parts for hours
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Postby uncle arthur » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:12 pm

vx255 wrote:Nicely done, gives great satisfaction to look at them after your arms have almost exploded from polishing bike parts for hours


2 words.

Bench polisher.

:D
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Postby vx255 » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:13 pm

uncle arthur wrote:
vx255 wrote:Nicely done, gives great satisfaction to look at them after your arms have almost exploded from polishing bike parts for hours


2 words.

Bench polisher.

:D


1 word.

CHEAT :shock: :lol:
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Postby uncle arthur » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:31 pm

vx255 wrote:
uncle arthur wrote:
vx255 wrote:Nicely done, gives great satisfaction to look at them after your arms have almost exploded from polishing bike parts for hours


2 words.

Bench polisher.

:D


1 word.

CHEAT :shock: :lol:


If I have the tools, I may as well use them. :)
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Postby uncle arthur » Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:15 pm

The frame came back from powder coating today.

Apologies for the poor light - the sun went behind a cloud at the very moment I took the pic (and stayed there) but the red looks good :)

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And the forks with a wheel fitted up to see how it will look.
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Waiting on some parts from the US but the main part of the build will be done over the weekend.....
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