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Postby bowie » Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:21 pm

Shiny metal Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :) 8)
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by BNA » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:35 am

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Postby kukamunga » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:35 am

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Is that cat eating a protected native animal in the background ? :shock: :evil: :wink: :lol:
God save the ABC & SBS.....
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Postby uncle arthur » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:51 am

kukamunga wrote:Is that cat eating a protected native animal in the background ? :shock: :evil: :wink: :lol:


No - it's protecting me from a tibouchina leaf that would have undoubtedly otherwise snuck up on me and attacked me (while I was occupied with bike bits) by falling down the waistband of my shorts.

Good Cat!!!! :D
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Postby uncle arthur » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:03 pm

Have had myself a busy day..... picked up the frame from the LBS today where I had the BB installed with some new bearings (needed to clean tap the threads to ensure a good fit because of a little left over sandblast/powdercoat grit).

So with a clean frame it was time to apply the decals. Easy, but finicky to get it all juuuuust right.....

Sitting in the sun after the dacals applied.
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With the decals applied, it was time to clear coat. About 6 coats.

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And with the cranks attached - I love the polished look against the deep shiny red.....

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Postby Papa Campagno » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:58 pm

The decals and cranks really add another dimension to the look of the bike. Its looking good, the finished product should be superb!
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Postby uncle arthur » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:56 pm

So I've had a busy weekend.

Nearly there.

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Postby munga » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:38 am

very nice
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Postby kukamunga » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:29 am

Hope the hammock got utilised between clear coats (or is that the cats domain) :wink:
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Postby Lark2004 » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:23 am

Have you ever had any adhesion problems between the powdercoat and the clearcoat?

Also, Where did you take it for the powdercoating?
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Postby uncle arthur » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:34 am

Lark2004 wrote:Have you ever had any adhesion problems between the powdercoat and the clearcoat?


Not sure yet as I only clearcoated it on the weekend. The clear coat is still soft, so I'm sitting the bike in the sun during the day to help cure the coat, before I give it a light soft polish to bring the shine up.

The main reason I clear coated it was to protect (and better integrate) the decals so I'm yet to see how it holds up, but I did use 'Power Plus' car touch up clear as opposed to El Cheapo Clear.

Lark2004 wrote:Also, Where did you take it for the powdercoating?


Global Powder Coating on Lillian Avenue at Salisbury. Just off Beaudesert Road outbound after you come off the rail crossing overpass (before Granard Road).

$70 all up.
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Postby Lark2004 » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:10 am

hmmmm, be interesting to see. I had heard a few years back that paint didn't stick to powdercoating very well. I hope in your case they were wrong, cause that looks really good.

Thanks for the heads up on the powdercoaters, I might do a bit of asking around on the northside, at least I know what price I'm lloking at.
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Postby bowie » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:44 am

oh i so wished you left the forks chrome :P

Otherwise. yumy yumy :)

power coated read is nice and deap!!!. Girlfriend wants a red bike.. that colour will do nicely :)
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Postby uncle arthur » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:48 am

bowie wrote:oh i so wished you left the forks chrome :P



The forks never were chrome otherwise I would have done just that :)

I contemplated having them done in bright silver, but it just wasn't going to be quite right.
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Postby stevebaby » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:39 pm

uncle arthur wrote:So I'm after some advice on going about this resto.

I've done a bit of searching to try and find out how to remove those cranks from the frame. Does the centre cap screw out or prise out and does it require a special tool??

Also - does anyone know where I might track down some new brake lever hoods, because the ones on there are perished to all hell.

Last - what do you guys think about the wheelset/cassette - should I maintain it, or upgrade it?
If you can find "Ozbikestar" on fleabay.au, he has NOS Weinmann brakesets(levers and calipers+ hoods,black only) for around $40 with postage.
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Postby stevebaby » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:42 pm

uncle arthur wrote:So I've had a busy weekend.

Nearly there.

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Hmmmmm,looks like my Rapallo. If you put red bontrager bartape and a Brooks B17 on it we could play "Snap"!
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Postby stevebaby » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:45 pm

stevebaby wrote:
uncle arthur wrote:So I've had a busy weekend.

Nearly there.

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Hmmmmm,looks like my Rapallo. If you put red bontrager bartape and a Brooks B17 on it we could play "Snap"!
...but it will look great.
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Postby Mikka » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:32 pm

I just saw this bike in the person .. in the flesh ... naked in all its glory ... I even TOUCHED it .... THERE!! .... :lol:

It's even more stunning than the photos show ... honestly .... 8)
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Postby MountGower » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:25 pm

Uncle Arthur

Nice result there. I have two questions.

1. How is the lug definition? I know it was in pretty bad shape, so I'm just after your best guess. You get a mixed response when it comes to powder coating a lugged frame.

2. Can we have a picture of your polishing wheel? I'm assuming it's a bench grinder with two grades of wheel. If so, any tips on where to buy the wheels and which two grades you used? Any particular polishing compound or agent?

That's probably more than two. You get that on the big jobs.
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Postby uncle arthur » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:53 pm

MountGower wrote:Uncle Arthur

Nice result there. I have two questions.

1. How is the lug definition? I know it was in pretty bad shape, so I'm just after your best guess. You get a mixed response when it comes to powder coating a lugged frame.


The lugs aren't too bad - I'll take and post a pic tomorrow, but obviously it's a little down compared with a feather thin coat of baked paint, or chromed, but still none too shabby in my opinion. Let's face it - I didn't have the frame refinished by Llewellyn......

MountGower wrote:2. Can we have a picture of your polishing wheel? I'm assuming it's a bench grinder with two grades of wheel. If so, any tips on where to buy the wheels and which two grades you used? Any particular polishing compound or agent?


I bought the polishing kit from either Mitre 10, or Trade Tools, or perhaps even Bunnings..... it has a largish rollmop wheel, had a scotchbrite styled abrasive wheel, and two blocks of cutting compound - for ferrous and non ferrous metals. The trick isn't in the rollmop - it's in the compound, and using the right one in not too large quantities - just enough to coat the ends of the rollmop. The rollmop eventually hardens up a bit with the polish and the metal polished, and it becomes like a soft abrasive pad. Final polish I generally do with a microfibre polishing cloth or old soft terrytowel.

Cost me less than $40 from memory, and I've used it to polish everything from car engine bay parts (including a turbo) through to these bike bits.
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Postby uncle arthur » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:59 pm

MountGower wrote:Uncle Arthur

Nice result there. I have two questions.

1. How is the lug definition? I know it was in pretty bad shape, so I'm just after your best guess. You get a mixed response when it comes to powder coating a lugged frame.


Some closeups for MG and anyone else interested:

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Postby Lark2004 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:43 pm

hmmmmmm.....looks purdy.....
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Postby MountGower » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:46 pm

I think it looks good value at $70 for sure.
The lug definition looks better than I expected.
Slide the rear wheel to the front of the rear fork end.
Soak the inner chain ring in kero.
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Postby uncle arthur » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:16 pm

MountGower wrote:I think it looks good value at $70 for sure.
The lug definition looks better than I expected.


Keep in mind too - the clear coat has not yet been polished. It is still curing.

MountGower wrote:Slide the rear wheel to the front of the rear fork end.
why?

MountGower wrote:Soak the inner chain ring in kero.
Yes - it still needs a bit of a detail clean.
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Postby uncle arthur » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:15 pm

Just to remind everyone...

From this:
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to this:
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Postby Kalgrm » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:43 pm

Spectacular!

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