Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

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Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby li2099 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:14 am

Hi

I got a bit of a dilemma when replacing my shift cables last night.
The bike is a Giant Defy with one of those frame cable cover where the shift cables goes in the headtube.
With the old cables, they were shoved in there however with the Jagwire Link set, it won't fit in.
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I was thinking if there is a 4mm casing that doesn't have the steel inner liner, I can cut a piece and plug it there.
Anyone know of a solution?
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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby Duck! » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:35 am

You should have the in-line adjusters that came with the bike.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby li2099 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:47 am

Duck! wrote:You should have the in-line adjusters that came with the bike.

Yes I do and I've bought better Jagwire ones than the one that comes with the kit.
What do you suggest I do?

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby eeksll » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:05 am

whats the diameter of the jagwire cables? I had a similar issue with my nokon cables.

I got these from ebay http://jagwire.com/products/small-parts ... s-end-caps

but I don't think I ended up using them but I can't remember why.

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby li2099 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:23 am

eeksll wrote:whats the diameter of the jagwire cables? I had a similar issue with my nokon cables.

I got these from ebay http://jagwire.com/products/small-parts ... s-end-caps

but I don't think I ended up using them but I can't remember why.


They are 4mm.

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby eeksll » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:35 am

so I am guessing a bit here, the issue, is the end cap/ferrule needs to fit over the 4mm jagwire link cable, but then the ferrule wont fit in the 4mm hole of the frame?

Can you just not use the end cap?

are you running a contiguous inner from the jagwire links into the frame?

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby li2099 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:47 pm

eeksll wrote:so I am guessing a bit here, the issue, is the end cap/ferrule needs to fit over the 4mm jagwire link cable, but then the ferrule wont fit in the 4mm hole of the frame?

Can you just not use the end cap?

are you running a contiguous inner from the jagwire links into the frame?

Yes I can run it without the ferrule however these silver "links" won't fit into the holes of the frame cable stops either.
Originally, the old 4mm shift hose was a very snug fit.
It wasn't a good design as moisture still got in and combined with stress overtime, I had rusty looking point:
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Yes I'm running a continuous inner from the shifters right to the derailleurs.
I think this is what I might need:
http://jagwire.com/products/small-parts ... nk-end-cap
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Can't seem to find it anywhere locally online.
Only place is from Amazon from US that comes in 30 pieces and may take a few weeks to arrive.

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby eeksll » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:55 pm

you could widen the hole on the frame if its just the cover ( I am assuming the cover is metal, thats what it looks like).

you could slightly sand the jagwire links to fit through the hole.

I think the problem with the jagwire pop3 end caps and the ones you posted is the inner liner won't fit through the end hole. No reason you couldn't drill the end cap though.

If I remember Ill see if i can find those pop 3 end caps tonight and have a proper look.

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby li2099 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:39 pm

eeksll wrote:you could widen the hole on the frame if its just the cover ( I am assuming the cover is metal, thats what it looks like).

you could slightly sand the jagwire links to fit through the hole.

I think the problem with the jagwire pop3 end caps and the ones you posted is the inner liner won't fit through the end hole. No reason you couldn't drill the end cap though.

If I remember Ill see if i can find those pop 3 end caps tonight and have a proper look.

Yes they are metal.
I've thought about drilling them slightly bigger but what I might do now is try modify a short piece of normal gear housing and see if I can make the inner diameter bigger so I can still feed the inner liner through.
I'm trying to keep the whole thing as sealed as possible.

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby eeksll » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:37 pm

i had a look at the pop3 end caps, they wont work. They are 5mm outer diameter on the small end and 5mm internal diameter on the larger end.

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby li2099 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:46 am

eeksll wrote:i had a look at the pop3 end caps, they wont work. They are 5mm outer diameter on the small end and 5mm internal diameter on the larger end.

Yes I went through my bike bits and pieces yesterday and found some spare pop3 I had from my last Jagwire Link upgrade on an older bike and they don't work like you said.
In the end, I simply cut a piece of shift outer casing(normal original black type), then used a pair of pliers and easily pulled out individual strands of metal wires that lined up the inner.
This gave me a clean black sheath for use in this scenario which is perfect. I only needed 1cm to plug in those 2 holes in the frame stopper.
Now the next challenge is installing the new R9100 front derailleur :D

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby Tim » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:52 am

li2099 wrote:Now the next challenge is installing the new R9100 front derailleur :D


I did this recently.
Just read the manual and it's quite easy.
http://si.shimano.com/#/

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Re: Jagwire Link for Giant Defy

Postby li2099 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:53 am

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