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Postby foo on patrol » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:39 pm

Good stuff mate! :D What Club did you join?

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Postby Derny Driver » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:02 am


I was camped directly opposite you Dean. Congratulations on your excellent results.
The guys I usually work with in the Team Pursuit only decided to do it the week before and none of the 4 were fully fit. We have won Nationals 3 times previously and they were smooth as they always are but the speed wasn't there and we could only manage a bronze. Any team with Andrew Patten in it is always going to be hard to beat and 3:21 is quick. I think the record is 3:19 I will have a look when I get home today. But yeah 3:21 on a slow day is motoring.
I got caught out in the pursuit too with the slow track, the lady I coach was up against world pursuit record holder and world hour record holder Bridie O'Donnell so we took a bit of a risk and rode a gear .8 of an inch bigger than she usually does. She won the State Title but had a massive fail at the Nationals, didn't even qualify. Anyway, you live and learn.
My ladies TP team managed silver in the All-Age which was a good result considering 3 of them don't really ride track and the 4th is only new at it too. They rode slow in the qualifying and I told them to go out in the final and give it 100%, which they did but blew to bits on lap 5. But silver for 4 girls from the same NSW club was good. The winners all have Australian and World Titles to their names so it was no disgrace.
My brother won his points race which was a big highlight for me.
All in all it was great racing although I was super busy looking after my ladies and changing wheels etc. 2 of them fell off the rollers and one broke 2 fingers when she grabbed a bike rack to get off the rollers and the whole thing crashed down on top of her.
Anyway congrats to you and the Queensland team.

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Postby thearthurdog » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:15 pm

Cheers Derny. The track was running a little faster in the afternoons but it was definitely a surprise for me overall. I went there intending to put my gear up for the IP, but did the warm up and said 'nope'.
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Postby Derny Driver » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:18 pm

According to my records the official best time for All-Age TP was set by Mark Jewel, Scott Butler, David Stevens, Gavin White 3:20.465 in 2012 Nationals in Sydney .... so yes you were less than a second off it.

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Postby thearthurdog » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:45 pm

Cheers for that. Andy Patten had the same info you did.
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Re: Track Race Report Thread

Postby foo on patrol » Fri May 19, 2017 12:48 pm

Would like to get fit enough to have a crack at these but sadly, I can't see that happening in the near future. :(

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Re: Track Race Report Thread

Postby ironhanglider » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:32 am

Been a bit quiet on this thread.

I'd thought I post this one because it's unique.

On Saturday before last there was a series of Handicaps at Blackburn. 8YO Lachlan might have felt a little hard done by in the E/F grade handicap given that as an F grade rider he was given a mark 10m behind an E grader. To his credit he did close the gap, but never really got onto the wheel, and eventually blew up. However the highlight for me was in the C/D grade handicap where for the first time in my life I was put on Scratch. I was given a good push from Barry Woods and got up to speed as fast as I could, (which is normally not that fast), however it was quick enough that the other scratchman Hugh, didn't grab my wheel when we caught the nearest riders and I went straight round. The race rapidly turned into an individual pursuit between Hugh and I as I rounded up the limit rider by half way and I rode the last km in clean air. I had originally planned on picking up some support along the way, and even though I called for them to go up the track in time it didn't work out.

This weekend was Lachlan's first track Open. The Melbourne Cup on Wheels, being held at DISC. Numbers were low in the junior grades with Lachlan and Lavinia being the only two U11 riders (both actually U9 for a few more weeks) who were asked to race with the U13 Girls (and there were only 2 of them).

In the first scratch race the two older girls demonstrated that they were the better riders, and whilst Lachlan held on till the last lap he was always going to have to be happy with third.

The second race was a U11/U13 handicap, and Lachlan and Lavinia were given 220m over the fastest of the U13 boys. Lachlan got off to a fast start and pretty much held the gap to the scratchmen for the first lap. The initial gap back to the U13 girls was 55 - 60m which worked out pretty well. The first of the girls caught Lachlan with half a lap to go, but he battled on and fought off the other U13 girl to claim second.

In his final race He attacked from the gun and opened a gap. The U13 girls caught him comfortably with two laps to go, but it was pleasing to see him giving it his best until the end.

#prouddadtime

However the real reason I'm posting is because both Lachlan and I are entered for the Austral wheelrace next weekend. I know that I will need to use a bigger gear on an indoor wooden velodrome compared to a windy, and bumpy concrete outdoor track. But is the faster track worth 4,6,8 10"?

Any suggestions? Despite my size, I'm not actually a powerful rider. I don't have great acceleration, although I can sustain speed reasonably well once I get there.

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Re: Track Race Report Thread

Postby Derny Driver » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:12 am

ironhanglider wrote:
However the real reason I'm posting is because both Lachlan and I are entered for the Austral wheelrace next weekend. I know that I will need to use a bigger gear on an indoor wooden velodrome compared to a windy, and bumpy concrete outdoor track. But is the faster track worth 4,6,8 10"?

Any suggestions? Despite my size, I'm not actually a powerful rider. I don't have great acceleration, although I can sustain speed reasonably well once I get there.

Cheers,

Cameron

I will be at the Austral hanging with the NSW elite guys. Badly dyed blonde hair. Come and say Hi or ask for Marcus.

Mate you need to go big with the gear. Minimum 96. I suggest 98
You cant ride 6 laps on your own on a big gear, so you need to suck a wheel as much as you can. If you find yourself stuck on the front, swing up and go back a few wheels.

For masters on indoor velodromes I suggest 94, 95 or 96 for IP. Some guys prefer bigger. Points race 96. Scratch race 97 or 98. Team pursuit 98-102.

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Re: Track Race Report Thread

Postby ironhanglider » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:20 pm

Thanks Marcus,
Just what I was looking for. Best of all I have a favourite 51T DA chainring that I can use. (my 50T Stronglight one isn't as round :!: )

I don't have high hopes of making the final, I wasn't good enough to make the final 20-25 years ago and I was riding off 200m then. Last week the qualifying for the MCOW final was in the form of 3 or four scratch races with the top 7 in each making it through. The only info I see for this year is that there will be 5 heats, probably with the top 5 to go through. Since there is a strong likelihood that the scratch mark will be occupied by the fastest pursuit team in the world I don't think that there is a track long enough anywhere that would give me a chance even if I did qualify, but it'll be fun to try. I will ride the other D grade scratch races, where there will not be a requirement to ride on the front for any distance :) ... I might just buy tickets to watch the evening session.

I'm mainly going to be there for Lachlan, it looks like there is a stronger field of U11 riders this time so in theory they will have their own races rather than being combined with U13. It'll be good experience for him since he can ride U11 for another two years.

I'll certainly come up and say hi.

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Re: Track Race Report Thread

Postby Derny Driver » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:30 pm

ironhanglider wrote: ... I might just buy tickets to watch the evening session....

I'll certainly come up and say hi.

Cameron you have to come to the evening session. The racing will be unbelievable.

I think Ive met you before but I look forward to meeting you.

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Re: Track Race Report Thread

Postby ironhanglider » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:23 pm

The problem with the evening session is that it is a very late night for an 8YO who despite loving his own races doesn't pay the slightest attention to other races (like my glorious win from scratch a couple of weeks ago... possibly the highlight of my cycling career). And after that we'd have to catch a train home.

I have no doubt that the racing would be fabulous. It is a treat to watch those who can really ride.

Yes we have met, or at least raced in the same bunch... at Bright a couple of times, like the year we went anticlockwise around the gaps loop and descended Tawonga Gap in the rain.

Bananaman was there too, and I saw his name among the results for MCOW.


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Re: Track Race Report Thread

Postby foo on patrol » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:00 am

Derny Driver wrote:
ironhanglider wrote:
However the real reason I'm posting is because both Lachlan and I are entered for the Austral wheelrace next weekend. I know that I will need to use a bigger gear on an indoor wooden velodrome compared to a windy, and bumpy concrete outdoor track. But is the faster track worth 4,6,8 10"?

Any suggestions? Despite my size, I'm not actually a powerful rider. I don't have great acceleration, although I can sustain speed reasonably well once I get there.

Cheers,

Cameron

I will be at the Austral hanging with the NSW elite guys. Badly dyed blonde hair. Come and say Hi or ask for Marcus.

Mate you need to go big with the gear. Minimum 96. I suggest 98
You cant ride 6 laps on your own on a big gear, so you need to suck a wheel as much as you can. If you find yourself stuck on the front, swing up and go back a few wheels.

For masters on indoor velodromes I suggest 94, 95 or 96 for IP. Some guys prefer bigger. Points race 96. Scratch race 97 or 98. Team pursuit 98-102.


This because on an Indoor, you will spin ya ring off any lower if, you have good fitness. :wink:

And this is a good starting point, if ya old fat and slow. :mrgreen:

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Re: Track Race Report Thread

Postby foo on patrol » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:06 am

I'm not racing anymore this year, in part due to major fatigue all year and then I had a crash two weeks ago, so I want to make sure everything has healed up well, before any major loading like ya need to do on the Track. :cry: I may ride the States in January, only to see how poorly I'm going but am going to ride Bundy and Rocky Carnivals in February. :)

There are three days racing this weekend in Brisbane at the Anna Dome = Wynnum Kangaroo Point and Ipswich Carnivals but I'm not even racing at my own Club Event, due to what I said above. :(

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Re: Track Race Report Thread

Postby ironhanglider » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:44 pm

I have taken DD's suggestions and installed the 98 51*14 (with a 51*15 warm up gear). The bikes are all prepped, chains lubed and wiped dry bolts checked, (bars, seat, chainring studs, crank bolts). Feeling a little excited.

I don't have any particular hopes. I am mostly going to try and show Lachlan how to ride against people who are fitter and stronger, but just being on the track at a big carnival is a buzz.

Lachlan will have a job to do since he is going to be the youngest rider in U11, however he will have another 2 years at this level to get better.

If I can swing some leave I'll try and get to some Christmas carnivals with him.

I'll look out for Foo's race reports in February.

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