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Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:46 pm
by brentono
You don't sound Lazy :)
Try your 53 with x17 to begin with (fixed gear on the road would be better)
If your still in an area with lamposts (remember them) along road - jump from one,
and wind up till you reach the next, then roll along for the next two,
then repeat again. Do for about half a dozen times, then roll along for a few kms
to recoup, and then repeat again. Worked for me.
Cheers
:mrgreen:

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:54 pm
by sogood
Subject to correction, I am not sure standing start repeats are the best training for Mikesbytes situations. Isn't that more of a low cadence thing?

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:24 pm
by brentono
Not sure your @me sogood, but the points I make here were for Lazyweek.
("jumps from rolling to speed for 50m" or the distance between lamposts)
Have discussed sprint training with Mikesbytes, in depth, before.
But equally (Mike might benefit), jumps from rolling to speed for 50m and repeating
could be construed as your "high intensity sprint intervals" sogood. So we concur. :)
Cheers
:mrgreen:

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:02 pm
by Lazyweek
Thanks brentono and Foo, your suggestions have been noted and I am doing my jumps (or standing starts - whatever I am meant to call them) using lower gears.

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:17 pm
by Lazyweek
Sorry to be clogging up this thread but I have a question regarding nutrition. I assume eating a lot and getting plenty of rest should help in improving peak wattage output?

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:50 am
by sogood
Lazyweek wrote:Sorry to be clogging up this thread but I have a question regarding nutrition. I assume eating a lot and getting plenty of rest should help in improving peak wattage output?

If you eat lots of right stuff, train lots, grow your muscle bulk, then yes, you'll improve peak power. But I am not sure the rider who has the best standing start would be the fastest finisher in an endurance road race.

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:05 am
by foo on patrol
It has nothing to do with how quick you do standing starts. It all about getting your legs used to putting your power down faster, to the best of your ability. :wink:

Foo

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:49 am
by mikesbytes
Lazyweek, no need to appologise, all your posts are of interest to this thread.

In Sydney there's a guy in his late 50's Theo from easts who puts everyone to shame with his starts. A huge advantage in a short or wheel race. I've looked at him a lot and said "how does he do that"

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:09 am
by Alex Simmons/RST
mikesbytes wrote:Lazyweek, no need to appologise, all your posts are of interest to this thread.

In Sydney there's a guy in his late 50's Theo from easts who puts everyone to shame with his starts. A huge advantage in a short or wheel race. I've looked at him a lot and said "how does he do that"

A neuromuscular advantage of having a higher proportion of Type II muscle fibres.

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:29 pm
by brentono
neuromuscular advantage

True. Also factors I found to gain an advantage for standing starts.
1. Possibly an advantage to have a longer femur (greater femur to leg ratio) :D
2. More power/weight would be an advantage.
3. Lower gearing would be an advantage.
4. Pure "start training" and plenty of it (including jumps uphill) surely must help.
:mrgreen:

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:36 pm
by sogood
brentono wrote:4. Pure "start training" and plenty of it (including jumps uphill) surely must help.

Specific help or generically of help? Any data?

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:37 pm
by twizzle
Someone needs to loan Mike a powermeter.

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:46 pm
by brentono
sogood wrote:
brentono wrote:4. Pure "start training" and plenty of it (including jumps uphill) surely must help.

Specific help or generically of help? Any data?


Generically, training has been shown to help, in most disciplines. Generically speaking. :D
Cheers
:mrgreen:

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:34 pm
by mikesbytes
Theo does practice his starts

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:23 pm
by alex
there is always someone who can produce more power than you

the trick is knowing when and how to apply the power you have

Re: Peak Wattage Output

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:56 am
by foo on patrol
^^Yep to this! You use your strengths, against their weaknesses. ^^ :mrgreen:

Foo