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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:13 pm

I'm not making a recommendation, I went searching for my FF front wheel, which doesn't meet your spec anyway and found this Zipp http://www.bikebug.com/zipp-60-front-clincher-wheel-p-27594.html Its a bit over your price and perhaps a bit heavier, being a alloy/carbon hybrid. Do you want clincher or singles? Alloy or Carbon braking?
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:38 pm

Another option is to buy a set for your road bike and use the front for both

http://www.bikebug.com/mavic-cosmic-carbone-sls-wts-wheelset-p-30309.html
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby JdM » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:44 pm

mikesbytes wrote:Another option is to buy a set for your road bike and use the front for both

http://www.bikebug.com/mavic-cosmic-carbone-sls-wts-wheelset-p-30309.html


I've been eyeing these... Seem good for the price, but from what I can find they are quite dated? Would it be better putting the $999 towards a more expensive and better set?
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:14 pm

Guess its a case of what you can get a price point

Someone else would be better as to advising the wheel(s) to get
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby warthog1 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:15 pm

I recently got a set of fc 404 clinchers. They are very good in the wind. I hardly notice any steering input. Seriously bugger all, much, much better than my 85mm token tubulars. They take some hanging onto but you do adapt. The 404s take no adaption at all ime.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby softy » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:25 pm

warthog1 wrote:I recently got a set of fc 404 clinchers. They are very good in the wind. I hardly notice any steering input. Seriously bugger all, much, much better than my 85mm token tubulars. They take some hanging onto but you do adapt. The 404s take no adaption at all ime.


I have a cervelo S5 with pre firecrest zipps 404, really good in crosswinds.

I now also have a bottecchia emme2 with reynolds mv32ul and this bike gets blown around a lot more. So depth of wheel, aero bike, doesn't always comput to more crosswind buffering.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby warthog1 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:50 pm

Yes mines an S5 also. Great bike hey ;)
The 85mm tokens are significantly worse but not unrideable even on a windy day.
I'm 184cm 75kg so not a heavy strong bloke either.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby linds » Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:40 am

The pre firecrest 404s seem to be a good affordable option then. I will go clincher if there is a good pne available but thats not that important to me.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby dalai47 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:23 am

Don't think the pre firecrest 404s clinchers were all carbon, but rather carbon with alloy brake track.

Is the 88mm Chinese wheel all carbon? If so consider getting an all carbon front wheel, otherwise you will need to swap brake blocks when changing wheels. I prefer the flexibility of being able to swap wheels at the last minute without necessitating a brake block swap by sticking with the same brake track material.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby linds » Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:26 pm

Yes the 88mm is all carbon. But my roadie ( Prolite Braciano) is Alloy.
For the amount of braking I do either TTing or TT training on the road ( not much ) ..Does it really matter if I use the same brake pads? ( Which I currently do)
I also would not be planning to swap out the pads at the last minute.
But good point..perhaps I should go a tubular full carbon.
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:50 pm

The problem with using alloy wheels is that your get small quantites of alloy in the pads, then when you put your carbon rim wheels in the alloy filing can damage your carbon rim
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby linds » Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:22 pm

Ok thks Mike, v good to know.
Carbon tubular it is

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby softy » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:56 am

softy wrote:
warthog1 wrote:I recently got a set of fc 404 clinchers. They are very good in the wind. I hardly notice any steering input. Seriously bugger all, much, much better than my 85mm token tubulars. They take some hanging onto but you do adapt. The 404s take no adaption at all ime.


I have a cervelo S5 with pre firecrest zipps 404, really good in crosswinds.

I now also have a bottecchia emme2 with reynolds mv32ul and this bike gets blown around a lot more. So depth of wheel, aero bike, doesn't always comput to more crosswind buffering.


Just to clarify, my zipps are all carbon tubulars, if that makes any difference. :)

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby Duck! » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:35 pm

mikesbytes wrote:The problem with using alloy wheels is that your get small quantites of alloy in the pads, then when you put your carbon rim wheels in the alloy filing can damage your carbon rim

Not only that, but pads for carbon don't brake as well on aluminium, and pads for aluminium tend to build up more, potentially damaging heat in carbon rims.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby Duck! » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:38 pm

dalai47 wrote:Don't think the pre firecrest 404s clinchers were all carbon, but rather carbon with alloy brake track.

404s have been through a few evolutions, from carbon/alloy, full carbon standard width, then Firecrest.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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