Best tyres for commuting?

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby queequeg » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:00 pm

jasonc wrote:got in trouble last week after my rear tyre looked like this:

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6400+kms, 1 puncture. new one now installed.


I am still going strong at 22,000km!
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby jasonc » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:21 am

queequeg wrote:I am still going strong at 22,000km!


handling was getting bad, especially in the wet
the front is starting the crumble. it has around 14000kms on it

have ordered a marathon greenguard as a replacement for that
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby queequeg » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:44 am

jasonc wrote:
queequeg wrote:I am still going strong at 22,000km!


handling was getting bad, especially in the wet
the front is starting the crumble. it has around 14000kms on it

have ordered a marathon greenguard as a replacement for that


To be honest, I can't figure out why this tyre is still going and not even showing blue specks yet. I'd normally be trashing them around the 12,000km mark.

I have four new SMPs ready to go so I am not trying to hold out. My replacement Marathon Supreme is still in one piece (front tyre), having done double the previous tyre's distance without incident (1,800km).
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:00 pm

queequeg wrote:I am still going strong at 22,000km!


What size is your tyre? Jason's looks pretty narrow given the rim it's on.
My 25c is not wearing as well as I expected.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby queequeg » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:02 pm

warthog1 wrote:
queequeg wrote:I am still going strong at 22,000km!


What size is your tyre? Jason's looks pretty narrow given the rim it's on.
My 25c is not wearing as well as I expected.


I run 28mm tyres on my commuter.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby jasonc » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:23 pm

25c. they are heavy enough especially considering the amount of climbing I do
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:59 pm

I've got 25c also.Given they aren't exceptional for wear IME and are super heavy and a dead feel, I'm going to try randonneurs next.
http://www.cellbikes.com.au/Vittoria-Randonneur-Wirebead-Trekking-Tyre?kpid=22780&gclid=CN3lmtqq_bwCFUZcpQodVX0A6Q

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:00 pm

queequeg wrote:I run 28mm tyres on my commuter.

That is awesome mileage, I'm not getting anywhere near that on my 25c's

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby singlespeedscott » Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:44 pm

Wider tyres wear better than narrower ones.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby jasonc » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:52 pm

warthog1 wrote:I'm going to try randonneurs next.


don't bother - no grip, low mileage, crap in the wet, and crappy puncture protection
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:13 pm

jasonc wrote:
warthog1 wrote:I'm going to try randonneurs next.


don't bother - no grip, low mileage, crap in the wet, and crappy puncture protection



Oh well instant test results thanks :)

What else is there in a 25c? I was thinking a supreme, but that is 28 only and wont fit.

Edit: I see further up you are looking at a greenguard, have you tried them before?

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby alexander » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:22 pm

warthog1 wrote:
jasonc wrote:
warthog1 wrote:I'm going to try randonneurs next.


don't bother - no grip, low mileage, crap in the wet, and crappy puncture protection



Oh well instant test results thanks :)

What else is there in a 25c? I was thinking a supreme, but that is 28 only and wont fit.


I think jason is dismissing a decent (notice I didn't say great) tyre, you might want to delve a little deeper than one person's opinion. I rated my rando's, not one pucture in 2 years, still had tonnes of tread, and they weren't as squirrly as gatorskins. But do some research and see what others have to say.

If you're looking for a great tyre look at the contis four seasons gran prix in 25c.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:50 pm

They are a different class of tyre, but they look reasonably tough :) . I'm pretty ambivalent toward the SMP, good puncture resistance true, but that comes at the expense of a dead feel (Nobody did warn me of that, and don't tell him, but he was right again). The wear rate has been unimpressive for a tyre with such a shed load of weight and material in it.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby jasonc » Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:34 am

alexander wrote:I think jason is dismissing a decent (notice I didn't say great) tyre, you might want to delve a little deeper than one person's opinion. I rated my rando's, not one pucture in 2 years, still had tonnes of tread, and they weren't as squirrly as gatorskins. But do some research and see what others have to say.

If you're looking for a great tyre look at the contis four seasons gran prix in 25c.


I have the spreadsheet number of the tyre mileage that I can show if you like. here's a glimpse:
first randonneur - 2635kms
first marathon plus ~8200kms.
is there any point in discussing it?
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby alexander » Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:01 pm

jasonc wrote:
alexander wrote:I think jason is dismissing a decent (notice I didn't say great) tyre, you might want to delve a little deeper than one person's opinion. I rated my rando's, not one pucture in 2 years, still had tonnes of tread, and they weren't as squirrly as gatorskins. But do some research and see what others have to say.

If you're looking for a great tyre look at the contis four seasons gran prix in 25c.


I have the spreadsheet number of the tyre mileage that I can show if you like. here's a glimpse:
first randonneur - 2635kms
first marathon plus ~8200kms.
is there any point in discussing it?


I do think it's worth discussing. It's awesome that you've collected data on your tyre milage, but remember that data is specific to you, your weight, the way you ride, where you ride, how often, when you ride, how far, etc. So thanks for offering your specific data to us, but it is by no means definitive. What if the user wants a light tyre? SMP are hardly light. What if they want a slick tyre, SMP's aren't slick. What if they want it in 23c? SMP don't come in that. So very quickly the parameters can make all your data irrelevant. The conversation continues...
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:24 pm

jasonc wrote:
I have the spreadsheet number of the tyre mileage that I can show if you like. here's a glimpse:
first randonneur - 2635kms
first marathon plus ~8200kms.
is there any point in discussing it?


Was the tread worn out after 2635 kms :o ? If so were you locking the rear wheel regularly?
I get more out of a GP4000S.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby queequeg » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:07 pm

warthog1 wrote:
jasonc wrote:
I have the spreadsheet number of the tyre mileage that I can show if you like. here's a glimpse:
first randonneur - 2635kms
first marathon plus ~8200kms.
is there any point in discussing it?


Was the tread worn out after 2635 kms :o ? If so were you locking the rear wheel regularly?
I get more out of a GP4000S.


The tread is only decorative. The SMPs grip just as well without the tread as they do with it. My rear one lost the tread about 5000km ago, still fine at 22,000km+ (started life as my front tyre).
I get around 12,000km usually, but since August last year the M2 westbound reopened and I reckons my tyre wear has reduced as a result.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby jasonc » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:43 pm

warthog1 wrote:
jasonc wrote:
I have the spreadsheet number of the tyre mileage that I can show if you like. here's a glimpse:
first randonneur - 2635kms
first marathon plus ~8200kms.
is there any point in discussing it?


Was the tread worn out after 2635 kms :o ? If so were you locking the rear wheel regularly?
I get more out of a GP4000S.



I get more out of a GP4000s also. No locking. They are just crap.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby Lurkin » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:16 pm

I had a notable difference from Kenda to Randonneur in rolling resistance.

As I have two hours of study to do before anything else when getting home, a couple of minutes means less 'me' time at the end of the day.

Needless to say, two Randonneurs sitting in the garage unused.

Moan Moan - most of the other commuters on this forum seem to prefer the marathon plus option.

Whilst it seems to be the king of mileage per tyre - its not the fastest, which is my preference.

Currently commuting on Schwabe Luganos. Budget tyre, does the job..... much less rolling resistance = faster. Trialing Mr Tuffys tyre liners as had too many punchers due to douchbags Saturday night broken bottles on the bike trail.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby ldrcycles » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:21 pm

Maxxis Refuse are available in a very fat looking 25mm. I'll be getting a set of those when my current 23s wear out.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby jasonc » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:57 pm

Lurkin wrote:its not the fastest, which is my preference.


a commuting tyre is a compromise.

My choice is to get to work. Hence if it takes me an extra few minutes to get there, that's a few minutes less than fixing a puncture (which normally occur in the pleasant rain). It also means I get decent tyre wear. I get a good workout too.

My roadie runs road tyres. When I ride that bike, I can accept a puncture or two (had 9 punctures on the roadie last year vs 1 on the marathon plus)
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:17 pm

jasonc wrote:

I get more out of a GP4000s also. No locking. They are just crap.

I like a succinct reply. :lol:


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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:23 pm

Lurkin wrote: had too many punchers


Out with the frame pump and into 'em with that on the way through then :P


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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:28 pm

queequeg wrote:
The tread is only decorative. The SMPs grip just as well without the tread as they do with it. My rear one lost the tread about 5000km ago, still fine at 22,000km+ (started life as my front tyre).
I get around 12,000km usually, but since August last year the M2 westbound reopened and I reckons my tyre wear has reduced as a result.


I don't know how many k's exactly my rear SMP in 25c has done. 2-3 k max. Tread is half worn. Maybe they'll go longer than I think.


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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby Onelesscar » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:52 pm

Vittoria Randonneur 700 x 28 with reflective bead wear well and have few punctures. When they are badly worn they don't corner very well. Tyre pressure makes a big difference with these tyres. If anyone knows where I can get a replacement set please let me know.

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