Best tyres for commuting?

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby jasonc » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:50 pm

I retired my old tyres and wheelset on the weekend

now running:
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schwalbe marathon 25c front
schwalbe marathon 25c plus rear
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby queequeg » Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:19 am

I run SMPs front & rear but have run a lighter tyre on the front (marathon supreme). Regardless of the tyre brand, the newest tyre goes on the front. When the rear wears out, move the front tyre to the rear and put the new one on the front.
If you use a different tyre on the rear, you'll be putting in a new rear tyre whilst still having an older one on the front. That may or may not be an issue.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:01 pm

I'm happy to run a lighter tyre on the front as I believe it more important grip wise and IME the front is far less prone to puncture and lasts ~3 x longer than the rear.
Durano plus on the front at the mo and randonneur on the rear.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby caneye » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:43 am

anyone running Rubena Flash on their commuters?

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby gresford » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:14 am

Could this be the ultimate commuter tyre?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/r ... tures.html

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby jasonc » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:37 am

gresford wrote:Could this be the ultimate commuter tyre?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/r ... tures.html


old riding buddy tried it. terrible handling. don't last as long as suggested
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:59 pm

caneye wrote:anyone running Rubena Flash on their commuters?

http://www.bicycles.net.au/2014/04/rubena_flash_stop_thorn_ultimate/

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby ItsDank » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:59 pm

This is the ultimate commuter tire.

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Great grip in the wet, made out of kevlar, dual compound and water channels. Seen me through the worst Sydney weather no problems.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:03 pm

ItsDank wrote:This is the ultimate commuter tire.

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Great grip in the wet, made out of kevlar, dual compound and water channels. Seen me through the worst Sydney weather no problems.

Doesn't look like a very commuting bike setup.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby yugyug » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:15 pm

ItsDank wrote:This is the ultimate commuter tire.

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Great grip in the wet, made out of kevlar, dual compound and water channels. Seen me through the worst Sydney weather no problems.


Water channels is Marketting BS. bicycles don't hydroplane.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby ItsDank » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:37 pm

yugyug wrote:
ItsDank wrote:This is the ultimate commuter tire.

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Great grip in the wet, made out of kevlar, dual compound and water channels. Seen me through the worst Sydney weather no problems.


Water channels is Marketting BS. bicycles don't hydroplane.


No but they do slip under pressure. The channels grip onto the slightly bumpy tarmac.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby kb » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:14 pm

ItsDank wrote:
yugyug wrote:
ItsDank wrote:Great grip in the wet, made out of kevlar, dual compound and water channels. Seen me through the worst Sydney weather no problems.


Water channels is Marketting BS. bicycles don't hydroplane.


No but they do slip under pressure. The channels grip onto the slightly bumpy tarmac.

I thought they were to direct spray to the side instead of in your face or up your back.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby yugyug » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:53 pm

ItsDank wrote:
yugyug wrote:
ItsDank wrote:This is the ultimate commuter tire.

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Great grip in the wet, made out of kevlar, dual compound and water channels. Seen me through the worst Sydney weather no problems.


Water channels is Marketting BS. bicycles don't hydroplane.


No but they do slip under pressure. The channels grip onto the slightly bumpy tarmac.


If that was the case then they would not be water channels but just like regular tread. And it's well known that tread on bicycles is also marketing-based design, as opposed to functional design, for the same reason, except when the ground surface is softer than the tire and able to be displaced by the tire, as in mountain biking and cyclocross. On a road which is harder than the tire, all tread does is needlessly give up space for traction.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby yugyug » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:56 pm

kb wrote:
ItsDank wrote:
yugyug wrote:[quote="ItsDank"]
Great grip in the wet, made out of kevlar, dual compound and water channels. Seen me through the worst Sydney weather no problems.


Water channels is Marketting BS. bicycles don't hydroplane.


No but they do slip under pressure. The channels grip onto the slightly bumpy tarmac.

I thought they were to direct spray to the side instead of in your face or up your back.[/quote]

I haven't heard that before. I dunno, doesn't sound right, water spray flies off a tire pretty fast, I doubt a tread pattern could direct it in any consequential way.

Get a fender if that's an issue? ;)

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby kb » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:00 am

yugyug wrote:
kb wrote:Get a fender if that's an issue? ;)

My bike is a bit sensitive about her weight and I wouldn't want to "a fender" ;-)
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby Lukeyboy » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:33 am

yugyug wrote:I haven't heard that before. I dunno, doesn't sound right, water spray flies off a tire pretty fast, I doubt a tread pattern could direct it in any consequential way.

The tread pattern makes minimal difference on a bike wheel as they are so skinny and the tread blocks themselves aren't that big. There isn't enough surface area for it to be that noticeable compared to something like a car tyre where tread pattern does displace water differently.

yugyug wrote:Water channels is Marketting BS. bicycles don't hydroplane.

Not 100% correct. Yep. Bicycles don't aquaplane but in the rain when youre cornering traction is a different story.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby skydance » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:57 pm

skydance wrote:opted for GP 4000S2. Let's see how it goes. Can't say for longevity, but that beast has fantastic grip even on wet (ish) roads.


Err... 2.100km now, wear indicators of the rear wheel are gone. It's not yet square, but not round as well. May take another 1-1.500 before puncture streak. Well, I did not expect it to live long.
Wonder if GP4000s2 (front) and Gatorskin (rear) makes any sense.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby yugyug » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:06 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:.

yugyug wrote:Water channels is Marketting BS. bicycles don't hydroplane.

Not 100% correct. Yep. Bicycles don't aquaplane but in the rain when youre cornering traction is a different story.


Ok so what's the story?

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby MattyK » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:24 am

Tread pattern probably affects aerodynamics more than anything else.

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby singlespeedscott » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:53 pm

I don't think it would have any measurable effect at all. I would like to see a statistical analysis that would prove it so.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:13 am


Only avalible in a 23mm. A bit undersized in this day and age.
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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby warthog1 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:37 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:

Only avalible in a 23mm. A bit undersized in this day and age.


I still like 23's on the roadie but I'd go bigger on the commuter (25's) I must admit.
I've got narrow rims btw.

Does seem strange they haven't got them bigger.
I run the old leather specials on the commuter anyway, makes the roadie feel like a rocket as they ride like crud. :lol:

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby MattyK » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:43 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:I don't think it would have any measurable effect at all. I would like to see a statistical analysis that would prove it so.

Note I said "probably", but here's some wind tunnel tests on various tyres on the same wheel:

http://flocycling.blogspot.com.au/2013/ ... sults.html

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My take on that chart is that the small amount of tread / surface roughness aids the airflow around the wheel. The slick (no tread) tyres tend to stall earlier.

Does it matter on a commuter? Not likely... I said "more effect", not "significant effect" :)

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Re: Best tyres for commuting?

Postby singlespeedscott » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:11 pm

Especially once you mount those wheels to a bike and cyclist on top
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