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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Comedian » Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:48 pm

baarg wrote:I had no idea there were actual rules! I thought the minus/plus points were just something people said here, this is hilarious. Funny thing is I played by the rules even without knowing them, although I am a roadie girl with shaved legs of course, lycra, etc, where am in in the food chain? What's my number? I suspect I am not along with male-roadie-shaved-legs. I think I should get more points when overtaking the before-mentioned then!


Look I think that it's an omission not for them to bring this up. My take on it would be females always win. If you overtake a bloke (known as being "chicked") then that's a pretty grave insult on ones manhood. If they over take you... and you contest it ... and loose then you can just diss it by saying "you just overtook a girl - shame on you for even racing" or one of those other girl type put downs. That's pretty much a win-win for the ladies.

If I had to say on the points... I'd be OK with a two point demotion. IE... if you are lycra clad and have shaved legs I'd support a down grade from 2 to 4 (hairy roadie) - if that's what you wanted. :shock: :roll: :mrgreen:

molly wrote:"6.Show no pain – unless your face is just like that" - thats gold! :D

I am by the chart sitting at four. Though I would like think I am lower as I am on an old raleigh 12speed (only 10 speed though as derailleur doesnt get up to largest rear sprocket), the bike cost me $20 and got it on the road for under $100 (spent more on it now that the rear 27inch wheel s**t itself and with tyres/tubes etc). It was originally funny passing people whose jerseys cost more than my bike did.

When passing/being passed I am always thinking though "how far have they gone already and how far are they going?"


Molly - you have hairy legs?? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby ft_critical » Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:41 pm

BikeRadar wrote:...
13.Shoppers with wicker baskets
14.Electric bikes


Electric bikes, 14. No way. Maybe in 1972, but not in 2011. I was passed on a 3% grade by an accountant in a skirt and comforble shoes on a electric bike at 35kmh. Not an exaggeration.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby mikesbytes » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:48 pm

ft_critical wrote:
BikeRadar wrote:...
13.Shoppers with wicker baskets
14.Electric bikes


Electric bikes, 14. No way. Maybe in 1972, but not in 2011. I was passed on a 3% grade by an accountant in a skirt and comforble shoes on a electric bike at 35kmh. Not an exaggeration.


That's because some have 200 watts and others have 200 watts
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Comedian » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:45 am

mikesbytes wrote:
ft_critical wrote:
BikeRadar wrote:...
13.Shoppers with wicker baskets
14.Electric bikes


Electric bikes, 14. No way. Maybe in 1972, but not in 2011. I was passed on a 3% grade by an accountant in a skirt and comforble shoes on a electric bike at 35kmh. Not an exaggeration.


That's because some have 200 watts and others have 200 watts


Yep... in Europe they have better quality bikes and abide by the 250w limit and speed governing where the assistance reduces from 25 and cuts out at 27. I too have worked to catch tiny asian ladies on huge big heavy ebikes that only pedal occasionally yet effortlessly maintain 35...
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby molly » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:22 am

Comedian wrote:
Molly - you have hairy legs?? :shock: :shock: :shock:


I'm only newish to cycling and I haven't gone that extra step yet (been considering the shave and the full lycra), thinking I will do it when I upgrade the bike but cant decide on what I want (nice steel frame or go carbon :twisted: ) and the money factor. Oh and I'm a guy if my name is misleading. Commuter racing is an incentive not to upgrade/shave/kit up though :D .
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Livetoride » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:40 am

Comedian wrote: Molly - you have hairy legs?? :shock: :shock: :shock:


molly wrote: Oh and I'm a guy if my name is misleading.


Gold, you can breath again Comedian :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Schmenz » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:48 am

i lost today... but crashed into a fence for a bit.. so lost a bit of time there!

good to see heaps of cyclists this morning tho! last weeks i had days with none! (although i did leave later today)
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby baarg » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:31 pm

Comedian wrote:
baarg wrote:I had no idea there were actual rules! I thought the minus/plus points were just something people said here, this is hilarious. Funny thing is I played by the rules even without knowing them, although I am a roadie girl with shaved legs of course, lycra, etc, where am in in the food chain? What's my number? I suspect I am not along with male-roadie-shaved-legs. I think I should get more points when overtaking the before-mentioned then!


Look I think that it's an omission not for them to bring this up. My take on it would be females always win. If you overtake a bloke (known as being "chicked") then that's a pretty grave insult on ones manhood. If they over take you... and you contest it ... and loose then you can just diss it by saying "you just overtook a girl - shame on you for even racing" or one of those other girl type put downs. That's pretty much a win-win for the ladies.

If I had to say on the points... I'd be OK with a two point demotion. IE... if you are lycra clad and have shaved legs I'd support a down grade from 2 to 4 (hairy roadie) - if that's what you wanted. :shock: :roll: :mrgreen:


That's really funny. I know men absolutely hate it when I pass them and they furiously try (and sometimes) overtake me, worse is when it's someone in a lower food chain, like this guy with baggy shorts on a road bike yesterday, no matter how tired I was, I couldn't let him get away and win the points, no way! I couldn't breathe by the end and I was wishing he'd just give it up already but I couldn't show any outward signs of pain so pushed on and got the points...The truth is that it's such a silly thing to do this ccr, but if there are no contestants on my commute, then the trip home/work is not as fun. :twisted:
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Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Comedian » Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:23 pm

baarg wrote:
Comedian wrote:
baarg wrote:I had no idea there were actual rules! I thought the minus/plus points were just something people said here, this is hilarious. Funny thing is I played by the rules even without knowing them, although I am a roadie girl with shaved legs of course, lycra, etc, where am in in the food chain? What's my number? I suspect I am not along with male-roadie-shaved-legs. I think I should get more points when overtaking the before-mentioned then!


Look I think that it's an omission not for them to bring this up. My take on it would be females always win. If you overtake a bloke (known as being "chicked") then that's a pretty grave insult on ones manhood. If they over take you... and you contest it ... and loose then you can just diss it by saying "you just overtook a girl - shame on you for even racing" or one of those other girl type put downs. That's pretty much a win-win for the ladies.

If I had to say on the points... I'd be OK with a two point demotion. IE... if you are lycra clad and have shaved legs I'd support a down grade from 2 to 4 (hairy roadie) - if that's what you wanted. :shock: :roll: :mrgreen:


That's really funny. I know men absolutely hate it when I pass them and they furiously try (and sometimes) overtake me, worse is when it's someone in a lower food chain, like this guy with baggy shorts on a road bike yesterday, no matter how tired I was, I couldn't let him get away and win the points, no way! I couldn't breathe by the end and I was wishing he'd just give it up already but I couldn't show any outward signs of pain so pushed on and got the points...The truth is that it's such a silly thing to do this ccr, but if there are no contestants on my commute, then the trip home/work is not as fun. :twisted:

ok I'm scared! Please tell me you are not Brisbane northside? :mrgreen:
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Comedian » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:51 pm

Crazy commute home tonight. Followed a guy out of town past the grammar schools ... sat a respectable distance behind and watched... nice riding. I was still thinking I was having a recovery ride at that point... :roll: :roll:

I passed a couple of riders up Fagan St near the hospital (don't those wheels sound good!). I think I might have picked up player 2 on that hill. :lol: Anyway waiting at the lights near the holden dealer I took off behind this hairy roadie (Player 1) and followed him mostly up the hill (not drafting).. and player 2 eases up behind me due to Player 1 slowing going up the steepest bit of Kedron brook road. So out of the saddle past player 1 and up the hill. While waiting at the round about Player 2 arrives behind me. :mrgreen:

So, off we go round the round about. Player 2 sits in behind me going down Uxbridge.... down onto the brook. Little bit of small talk at the library turnoff and away we go. So he's sitting behind me going towards everton park. over the bridge and up the gentle incline (near Bilabong St) and Player 2 is still with me. So, I think we'll see how he goes. So wound it up to 38ish. Still drafting. :) On the drops and up to 42 around the bend and down to the bridge and then up the little hill... last time I heard his derailleur. I looked in the mirror and boom... gone. :shock: :shock: There is nowhere to turn off to so I presume he spontaneously combusted or something... :lol: :lol:

So can I claim Player 1? I don't think I can claim Player 2 but I did enjoy it. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I've learn't something recently. If you want CCR action shave your legs and get some carbon wheels... unfortunately it puts you at the top of the food chain so you better have some fire power on board. Still... every man and his dog wants some... lol. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Makes getting a recovery ride in very difficult. :roll:
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby schurms » Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:12 pm

I frequently add a riverloop in on my commute to work (50ks). The roadie's absolutely loathe it when I pass them, or hop onto the back of their peleton, when I am on my XC MTB, with full backpack, and mudguards.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby winstonw » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:23 pm

Comedian wrote:On the drops and up to 42 around the bend and down to the bridge and then up the little hill... last time I heard his derailleur. I looked in the mirror and boom... gone. :shock: :shock: There is nowhere to turn off to so I presume he spontaneously combusted or something... :lol: :lol:


Gawd Comedian. You need to get down the crit on Sunday Nov 6 and pick on someone your own age and size, at the Vault Crit. $30,000 in prize money up for grabs!!! Pity it is on the same time as the BMW ride. I'd really like on of their jerseys. It's not so much the speed, but where you are doing it. I can't imagine 40+ on the par of KBB you are talking about.

Incidentally, I had a PB max speed this morning. Three of us met Dave Alley to join him on his last 21km of his race around australia.
3 police car escort out front (dave's a policeman), 3 support vehicles, and 2 police car rear escort. (this is at 4am when all the crooks are sleeping)
Probably first and last time I'll ever ride a bike on the motor vehicle part of the Gateway and Houghton Hwy bridge. Anyway, the entourage gets to a traffic light turning red on the north end of the bridge. Most of it goes through, but there's 2 cars at 90 degrees with a green light champing at the bit, so I slow to a stop, and support vehicle and two police cars behind me do too. Hmmmmm...waiting waiting....no matter methinks...Dave's doing around 33...I'll catch him....green light and bang off I go. A short time later the entourage is one again. Later the police and support truck driver congratulate me on holding 55 for at least a minute. Last time I measured my max, it was 48 for around 30 seconds.

After all the celebrations and a chat with Dave, we head back to Bris, and meet the Tom Wallace Shop ride heading north 500 metres before their turn around, so 1km behind us. Surprisingly, we didn't see them again until post ride coffee on Shaw Rd. Must have been the SE headwind that slowed them.
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Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Comedian » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:49 pm

Cool stuff, Winston.

Yes... I think I've finally recovered from the gc ride... I'm on fire. :mrgreen: better burn some energy off on the mountain Saturday. ;)
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby baarg » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:43 pm

Comedian - I am Southside, I'm one of the lucky ones with lots of bikeway to ride on. You'll probably kick my ass, but I won't give up without a fight and you'd really feel you earned your points, EVEN considering I am a girl (well, more like lady, but you know what I mean)! :twisted: I think you are ready to start racing!
Like someone above, I also often wonder how far people have to go, if they come from a training ride, etc. That's why it's a silly thing, but it's also good training...
Not sure if this is part of the rules, didn't find it, but I think they omitted to say that looking back is strictly forbidden and it must never be allowed, it's a commuter race, not a proper race, you cannot show you're trying!
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby jules21 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:09 pm

saw some funny CCR action this morning on the shared path - one guy passes another, other guy passes straight back, first guy keeps pulling out but thinks better of it. i was waiting for the argy bargy to begin but they stayed in control :)
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Livetoride » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:15 pm

schurms wrote:I frequently add a riverloop in on my commute to work (50ks). The roadie's absolutely loathe it when I pass them, or hop onto the back of their peleton, when I am on my XC MTB, with full backpack, and mudguards.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby ldrcycles » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:04 pm

baarg wrote: looking back is strictly forbidden and it must never be allowed


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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Livetoride » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:09 pm

This going to sound very cocky (not intended) but I can never find anyone willing to race.... :( :(
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Comedian » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:44 pm

Livetoride wrote:
schurms wrote:I frequently add a riverloop in on my commute to work (50ks). The roadie's absolutely loathe it when I pass them, or hop onto the back of their peleton, when I am on my XC MTB, with full backpack, and mudguards.
One of life's pleasures. :D

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Look... I'm having a flashback here. I remember doing a couple of cootha laps and a river loop one morning and seeing this young girl (dark hair) with a backpack on a mountain bike and thinking "wow... she's getting along". It's so long ago that I can't remember to many details but for it to stick in my mind means I was impressed. Don't know if it was you. :)
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby schurms » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:02 am

Comedian wrote:Look... I'm having a flashback here. I remember doing a couple of cootha laps and a river loop one morning and seeing this young girl (dark hair) with a backpack on a mountain bike and thinking "wow... she's getting along". It's so long ago that I can't remember to many details but for it to stick in my mind means I was impressed. Don't know if it was you. :)


Well I suppose it may be if you have a good imagination :D . Yellow back pack, Red helmet, black specialized xc racing mountain bike?

Oh...forgot to mention (alzhiemers kicking in) - I'm 50, have short cropped grey hair, and I'm male so most likely not - last time I had long hair was 33 years ago and haven't had moobs for about 10 years now :D

On my commute in I will be doing the reverse loop around 5.30am getting into West End at 6.30am.
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Comedian » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:37 pm

schurms wrote:
Comedian wrote:Look... I'm having a flashback here. I remember doing a couple of cootha laps and a river loop one morning and seeing this young girl (dark hair) with a backpack on a mountain bike and thinking "wow... she's getting along". It's so long ago that I can't remember to many details but for it to stick in my mind means I was impressed. Don't know if it was you. :)


Well I suppose it may be if you have a good imagination :D . Yellow back pack, Red helmet, black specialized xc racing mountain bike?

Oh...forgot to mention (alzhiemers kicking in) - I'm 50, have short cropped grey hair, and I'm male so most likely not - last time I had long hair was 33 years ago and haven't had moobs for about 10 years now :D

On my commute in I will be doing the reverse loop around 5.30am getting into West End at 6.30am.

Well... I'm pretty sure it wasn't you then. Because I'm sure the rider was female and not male. Well maybe not 100% sure but I'm pretty good at spotting these things these days. :o

On the downside for you... there is probably a little girl out there who rides a MTB that could probably give you a run for your money. :mrgreen:
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby jasonc » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:42 am

unbelievable this morning . chasing a mountain bike for about 5 kms. finally get him along coro drive, then he gets me straight back going over the go between bridge

he was moving
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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Comedian » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:45 pm

jasonc wrote:unbelievable this morning . chasing a mountain bike for about 5 kms. finally get him along coro drive, then he gets me straight back going over the go between bridge

he was moving

Maate.. you know you can't count that - don't you? On a hybrid you are further up the chain than he is. By engaging him though he can count you! :mrgreen: So that's a big -1. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby Comedian » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:46 pm

By the way... as of next month I'm going to do a running total of people that pop in to claim so we can all practice for next year when I'll start a thread up and run it by SCR rules. :twisted:
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Commuter Cup Racing

Postby jasonc » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:09 pm

Comedian wrote:
jasonc wrote:unbelievable this morning . chasing a mountain bike for about 5 kms. finally get him along coro drive, then he gets me straight back going over the go between bridge

he was moving

Maate.. you know you can't count that - don't you? On a hybrid you are further up the chain than he is. By engaging him though he can count you! :mrgreen: So that's a big -1. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


I know :oops:
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