Not falling with clipless pedals
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby zero » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:10 pm
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby Xplora » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:56 pm
That said - I do believe you, because these pedals have reacted extremely strangely given the "logical" mechanics of a spring loaded lock. I have a feeling that I'm possibly expecting a much more road cleat feel. Can't really get involved in a more difficult pedal though, commuting is commuting. You reckon a replacement pedal is the ticket, zero?
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby Becker_11 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:19 pm
I assume your referring to twisting your ankle outwards, have you tried unclipping inwards? I almost never unclip to the outside and doing so feels extremely uncomfortable, inwards requires less effort and less movement just be careful what position in the pedal stroke you do it for obvious reasons.Xplora wrote:Managed to figure out the problem with the SPD pedals... it seems that there is a significant amount of float in the clip. This means that I'm rotating my ankle a reasonable amount and it's not unclipping, and it's not like I can physically just keep going It seems to be fine if I push my toe down before rotating, but anyone who has ever clipstacked will tell you that this is the LAST motion you will attempt while trying to flee the bicycle. What a drag. I'm hoping that my new bike, running XTs in all likelihood, will fare better. Seems the regular double sided clips are designed differently, and tighten a different way. Funnily enough, I'm wondering if going tighter would be better, even though it would be hard to twist out, at least it would make a more positive connection? I'll have to find a pole to do some testing this weekend
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby zero » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:29 pm
Mine have worn "body covers" in shimano terminology - the little square bump on the underside is torn up and profile is generally worn - my newer pedals on my roadbike are unworn so they are easier to get out of. The latch and spring is fine. I loosened mine one click and at least I can get out of them nowXplora wrote:MORE float:!>!>!>!>!>!> That's ridiculous, because I'd think that putting more tension on the release spring would push the cleat forward, making a more solid grip?
That said - I do believe you, because these pedals have reacted extremely strangely given the "logical" mechanics of a spring loaded lock. I have a feeling that I'm possibly expecting a much more road cleat feel. Can't really get involved in a more difficult pedal though, commuting is commuting. You reckon a replacement pedal is the ticket, zero?
They've always had a fair bit of float so you may not ever like or trust them commuting. Part is available in some places by itself, so I'd guess you'd buy that alone if the rest of the pedal is in good order.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby Xplora » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:59 pm
I'm seeing the value of double sided pedals now - you only wear the pedal out at half the speed. My wife has been using these things for a few years I think, almost every day, so I could have a lot of wear and not realise it. The weirdest thing is that these things were fine the first few times I rode, suddenly they are much less friendly. I am doing something wrong.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby zero » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:13 am
I can't unclip inwards either, but I have a swing arm and a link in the way on most of the angles that the crank isn't in the way. Can't see it happening on the roadie either, its got a narrower q-factor so the pedals are closer to the frame.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby Aushiker » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:42 am
Just watch you don't put your foot into the rear spokes. Been there done thatBecker_11 wrote:I notice no one has mentioned for the benefit of clipless newbies that while it is recommended to unclip by rotating your heel outward, it is also possible and sometimes requires less of a twist to unclip inwards. All the usual disclaimers apply.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby Becker_11 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:47 am
I'm riding a recumbent trike so my feet are a long way from hitting anything other than the boom and i can confirm my ankle bone was sore for over a week after hitting the boom 3 times in the same day due to careless unclipping. Lesson learnt for sure. Before anyone says it though yes I have unclipped inwards on a diamond frame bike and provided you engage your brain before disengaging your pedals it's not a problemAushiker wrote:Just watch you don't put your foot into the rear spokes. Been there done thatBecker_11 wrote:I notice no one has mentioned for the benefit of clipless newbies that while it is recommended to unclip by rotating your heel outward, it is also possible and sometimes requires less of a twist to unclip inwards. All the usual disclaimers apply.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby marsbe » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:19 pm
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Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby herzog » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:22 pm
marsbe wrote:Does anyone try to ride SPD pedals without their cleats for short casual rides with normal shoes? I'm wondering if it's a plausible idea.
Yeah I do this if I'm just heading out to get the milk etc.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby Comedian » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:22 pm
Depends on the pedals. Some of them have a cage around them, and some have an arrangement where you flip them over and they are normal pedals.marsbe wrote:Does anyone try to ride SPD pedals without their cleats for short casual rides with normal shoes? I'm wondering if it's a plausible idea.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby zero » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:36 am
A530s have a normal flat on one side, I use em that way for business clothes days, though in practice I can also ride a 520s (double sided clip) with regular shoes. As a friend of mine once discovered the hard way, even really vestigal pedals can be ridden by thieves in joggers.marsbe wrote:Does anyone try to ride SPD pedals without their cleats for short casual rides with normal shoes? I'm wondering if it's a plausible idea.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby nappyknicks » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:46 am
Do-able in flip-flops even, though it feels really odd.marsbe wrote:Does anyone try to ride SPD pedals without their cleats for short casual rides with normal shoes? I'm wondering if it's a plausible idea.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby Xplora » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:17 pm
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby balap » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:38 am
After reading this thread, I am going to get a wellgo flat pedals to ride the bike for a while.
I might use the clipless one day. I don't like the idea of falling down in a middle of traffic.
Maybe I should get familiar with the bike first.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby gururug » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:01 pm
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby balap » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:31 pm
They'll be install on my road bike that I recently bought.
Hopefully I get used to it quickly without painful clipstacks.
From what I read here quite many people experienced clipstacks even after years of using them?
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby Tazzy » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:05 am
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby balap » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:19 pm
I hope you recover well and soon.
I am 47 and falling down is not like what it used to so I try to avoid it all together.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby Tazzy » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:29 pm
Yeah thanks mate.balap wrote:Hi Tazzy,
I hope you recover well and soon.
I am 47 and falling down is not like what it used to so I try to avoid it all together.
It's gonna take a while though I reckon, looking awfully like a substantial tear to the rotator cuff, ultrasound Monday. What I thought was weeks could turn into months.
I'm 45 but fitter than I was 20 years ago, unfortunately that doesn't help when you fall. To make it worse I only just recently invested in a 17ft fibreglass sea-kayak, only paddled it twice. I've been doing weight training for the last 9 months in preparation and now this.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby il padrone » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:53 pm
Then this was the result. It took 11 weeks but I got back to normal cycling pretty quick after that. I'm now 52 so face similar concerns as you. I did get to do some paddling of our kayak over summer. Loving the riding of my new Thorn Nomad Raven touring bike now.
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Re: Not falling with clipless pedals
Postby balap » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:50 am
Also being a sit on doesn't help to keep me warm.
So what is the best way to fall?
Instinctively most people will use their hand like you did il padrone.
We see how motor bike racers deliberately turn to jelly when they fall and slide on the asphalt and gravels.
Most can walk away after a high speed fall.
How to fall from a bike with the least damage to the rider?
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