1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

The foundations for successful riding

1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Hebden » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:18 am

I believe one of Alex's charges is making an attempt at the 1 hour record in Sydney this weekend?

Any details Alex? Is it still on? There were some details on the Cycling NSW website, but the link isn't working anymore.
User avatar
Hebden
 
Posts: 406
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:47 am
Location: Katoomba, NSW

by BNA » Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm

BNA
 

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby JV911 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm

i believe its still on: World Hour Record Attempt on Sunday 26 April at 3.30pm

Jayson Austin wrote:UCI World Hour Record Attempt

All the officials have been appointed and the UCI Chief Commissaire will fly in from Melbourne on 26 April. Kevin Young from CNSW and Bill Clinch CA have made sure everything is in place for a trouble free attempt.

Some of my Bicisport buddies are going to assist by warming up the track from 3pm prior to my attempt. I will take to the track to warm tyres and Alex will collect some last minute data.

Dave Willmott has had to postpone his World Record attempts at the 200 and 500m so I have moved my start time to 3.30pm. The distance to beat is 45.641 kms set by Jason Sprouse of USA in 2007-just short of 183 laps.

All being well I will have that record by Sunday 26 April at 4.30pm.
<---LACC--->
<---BMC SLR01--->

User avatar
JV911
 
Posts: 5451
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:22 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby ni78ck » Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:23 pm

i will do my own attempt in the morning! probably half his pace :roll:
Cervelo R5
Cervelo S5 VWD - dura ace Di2
User avatar
ni78ck
 
Posts: 2401
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:15 pm
Location: Sydney

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:01 pm

Yes, it is definitely on!!
Hoping it warms up a little!
User avatar
Alex Simmons/RST
Expert
 
Posts: 3463
Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 3:51 pm

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby colafreak » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:03 pm

Yeah? How come warmer is better?
Please pardon my ignorableness
colafreak
 
Posts: 635
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:37 pm

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby JV911 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:12 pm

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:Yes, it is definitely on!!


any other events on?
<---LACC--->
<---BMC SLR01--->

User avatar
JV911
 
Posts: 5451
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:22 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby orphic » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:16 pm

Can you show up to watch this sort of thing?
orphic
 
Posts: 137
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:14 am
Location: Newtown, NSW

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby JV911 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:56 pm

orphic wrote:Can you show up to watch this sort of thing?


yep...i reckon there will be quite a turnout. i'm hoping to go with my old man

there is even a bar that does good chicken burgers :)
<---LACC--->
<---BMC SLR01--->

User avatar
JV911
 
Posts: 5451
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:22 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby orphic » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:34 pm

Cool, I think I will go along!
orphic
 
Posts: 137
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:14 am
Location: Newtown, NSW

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:28 pm

JV911 wrote:
Alex Simmons/RST wrote:Yes, it is definitely on!!


any other events on?

There are the NSW criterium championships being held at Olympic Park that morning before the attempt but there is no other track racing on. Officals will be coming over from SOP to DGV and we have a UCI official flying in from Adelaide for the day to oversee it (it's a requirement for official record attempts). Also the ASADA people for the drug tests will be there. And the people to run the electronic timing and starting gates. It's quite a complex (and expensive) logistical challenge.

The velodrome has been specially booked for this hour record attempt.

I doubt the DGV will have catering but the handle bar tavern may have food on, not sure what times the bistro operates.
The plan is for a celebration beer afterwards though!
User avatar
Alex Simmons/RST
Expert
 
Posts: 3463
Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 3:51 pm

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Burt 'Pigeon Racer' Jones » Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:09 pm

colafreak wrote:Yeah? How come warmer is better?


Warmer = Thinner air = Less wind resistance = Faster = Further.
User avatar
Burt 'Pigeon Racer' Jones
 
Posts: 893
Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:46 am
Location: Stirring the pot.

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby mikesbytes » Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:51 pm

Hope he pulls it off
A helmet saved my life
User avatar
mikesbytes
Super Mod
Super Mod
 
Posts: 14862
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:42 pm
Location: Tempe, Sydney

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:56 pm

Burt 'Pigeon Racer' Jones wrote:
colafreak wrote:Yeah? How come warmer is better?


Warmer = Thinner air = Less wind resistance = Faster = Further.

Basically that's it.

Air density is a sizeable factor that determines how fast we can go for a given power output.

The higher the air density, the slower we go for a given power.

Air density is lowered by:
An increase in altitude
An increase in temperature
A reduction in barometric pressure
An increase in humidity (although this doesn't have much of an impact compared to the above three)

For example, drop the temp by 5C (from say 25 to 20C) for same barometric pressure, and that will cost Jayson nearly 300 metres.
If air pressure goes up 10 hPa (say from 1010 to 1020 hPa) for same temp that will cost Jayson 150 metres.
User avatar
Alex Simmons/RST
Expert
 
Posts: 3463
Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 3:51 pm

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Nobody » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:26 pm

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:
Burt 'Pigeon Racer' Jones wrote:
colafreak wrote:Yeah? How come warmer is better?


Warmer = Thinner air = Less wind resistance = Faster = Further.

Basically that's it.

Air density is a sizeable factor that determines how fast we can go for a given power output.

The higher the air density, the slower we go for a given power.

Air density is lowered by:
An increase in altitude
An increase in temperature
A reduction in barometric pressure
An increase in humidity (although this doesn't have much of an impact compared to the above three)

For example, drop the temp by 5C (from say 25 to 20C) for same barometric pressure, and that will cost Jayson nearly 300 metres.
If air pressure goes up 10 hPa (say from 1010 to 1020 hPa) for same temp that will cost Jayson 150 metres.

Does temperature also affect available oxygen levels and therefore power production? Does this offset the increased drag to any degree?
Nobody
 
Posts: 6656
Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:10 pm
Location: Sydney

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby sogood » Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:15 pm

Why not time the record attempt in the warmer months? Where's the intersect b/n physical comfort and aero benefit?
Bianchi, Ridley, Montague, GT, Garmin and All things Apple :)
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
User avatar
sogood
 
Posts: 17013
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:31 am
Location: Sydney AU

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:42 pm

sogood wrote:Why not time the record attempt in the warmer months? Where's the intersect b/n physical comfort and aero benefit?

It is not so easy to just pick whenever you like given all the ducks that have to be lined up. For example, if you can't get the relevant officials, you can't do it. They are heavily committed to the race calendar as it is.

You get to narrow it down to 2 or 3 possible dates and go with what you think provides both reasonable conditions but also enough time to prepare the athlete and work around other race commitments.

I would suggest that ~24C is about right for a long effort like this.

for sprint stuff, then as hot as you can stand.
User avatar
Alex Simmons/RST
Expert
 
Posts: 3463
Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 3:51 pm

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Addict » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:48 pm

best of luck !
Addict
 
Posts: 258
Joined: Wed May 14, 2008 12:41 pm

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby JV911 » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:41 pm

i hear we have a new record holder! :D
<---LACC--->
<---BMC SLR01--->

User avatar
JV911
 
Posts: 5451
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:22 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby NotFlyingScot » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:19 pm

JV911 wrote:i hear we have a new record holder! :D

Very impressive. I was exhausted just watching!
NFS
FPR Jubilado Bludger
User avatar
NotFlyingScot
 
Posts: 1256
Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:36 pm
Location: Kings Langley

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby colafreak » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:41 pm

Anywhere I can read about this?
Please pardon my ignorableness
colafreak
 
Posts: 635
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:37 pm

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby wombatK » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:54 pm

NotFlyingScot wrote:
JV911 wrote:i hear we have a new record holder! :D

Very impressive. I was exhausted just watching!
NFS

Think Jayson was a bit knackered too - judging by the stumble at the stairs near the track exit.

Congrats to Jayson and Alex. Fantastic consistency in his lap times, and was threatening the record from the get go.

What's the official result ? Trackside supporters were saying about 2.4 km more than previous record ? That would be a stunning result, and the only thing more stunning would be the lack of publicity.
WombatK

Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us -Jerry Garcia
User avatar
wombatK
 
Posts: 5249
Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:08 pm
Location: Yagoona, AU

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Addict » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:12 pm

wombatK wrote: That would be a stunning result, and the only thing more stunning would be the lack of publicity.



could not agree with you more!!
Addict
 
Posts: 258
Joined: Wed May 14, 2008 12:41 pm

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:20 pm

wombatK wrote:Congrats to Jayson and Alex. Fantastic consistency in his lap times, and was threatening the record from the get go.

Thanks.
wombatK wrote:What's the official result ? Trackside supporters were saying about 2.4 km more than previous record ? That would be a stunning result,

48.317km
:mrgreen:

Mens Masters 2 category, new world record.
Previous record 45.641km (Jason Sprouse, USA).
That's 2.676km further.

Coach is delighted.

I will do an analysis and write up in due course but am kinda busy this week ahead.
wombatK wrote:and the only thing more stunning would be the lack of publicity.

Well this wasn't about publicity, it was about performance.
User avatar
Alex Simmons/RST
Expert
 
Posts: 3463
Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 3:51 pm

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby Hebden » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:06 pm

It was a very impressive display. Extraordinary consistency in Jayson's lap times and to see him struggle down those steps to the in-field showed that he had paced himself beautifully. Hat's off to the coach too!

A bit surprised there weren’t more people there though, I was with a group of Triathletes in the stands and apart from us and NFS it was near empty, would have expected a few more cyclists to come and see the feat.
User avatar
Hebden
 
Posts: 406
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:47 am
Location: Katoomba, NSW

Re: 1 hour record attempt this weekend, Sydney

Postby mikesbytes » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:58 pm

Didn't just beat it, he's smashed the world record
A helmet saved my life
User avatar
mikesbytes
Super Mod
Super Mod
 
Posts: 14862
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:42 pm
Location: Tempe, Sydney


Return to Training

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users



Popular Bike Shops
Torpedo 7 Torpedo7 AU
Ground Effect Ground Effect NZ
Chain Reaction Cycles CRC UK
Wiggle Wiggle UK
Ebay Ebay AU

“Bicycles BNA Twitter
“Bicycles BNA Facebook
“Google+ BNA Google+
“Bicycles BNA Newsletter

> FREE BNA Stickers
> BNA Cycling Kit