Two Riders, different speed, riding together

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Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby whitestivo » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:54 am

Person 1, averages 26kmh individual, bike good

Person 2 averages 31kmh individual, bike very good

How do you get the two to ride together. I've tried person 1 drafting person 2. I've tried person 2 running 80psi in tyres and wearing tshirt, and still no good.

What can I do to slow myself down, while still maintaining riding intensity. No point me just riding slow.

Should i just buy a $100 woolies MTB and cross train?

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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby sogood » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:13 pm

5km/h difference in average speed is a very large gap in ability. Your hope would be to train the slower rider fast and bring his av speed up.

Otherwise try riding a poorly serviced and the heaviest MTB with studded tyres inflated at 25psi. :mrgreen:
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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby USM TOM » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:53 pm

when my mate first started i just slowed down a little and let him draft me all the time

it didnt take long at all for him to get up to my speed
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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby whitestivo » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:05 pm

Is any reason not to go MTB, or should I just get an old road bike like my previous trusty kuwahara 14 speed?

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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby Zynster » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:11 pm

Tow rope?
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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby LittleWheelsandBig » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:23 pm

Ride a tandem, you both get to go fast.
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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby mikesbytes » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:32 pm

Head for the hills. Each rider rides up at their own pace, ie as hard as possible. The first rider up then rides down again to where the other rider is and rides up again with them.
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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby nimm » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:42 pm

adjust your brakes so they're always on :)
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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:20 pm

A few mega sized "meals" from McVomits should bring you back down to his pace :wink:

Naaah, run 36 spoke training wheels with heavy hubs and the widest tyre you can use.

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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby Wayfarer » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:21 am

carry like, five water bottles and all of his accessories (pumps and bottles etc)
What are these salesmen peddling?
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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby whitestivo » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:40 am

The hills idea is a good one, I'll use that thank you, as I can really push up first set, then come back down for easy set, bit like intevals

The question was really about ways to keep my workout strong, and yet slow me down enough to ride with her. She just doesn't push out the kms per week that I do on the bike as her favourite is running.

Do heavy rims and hubs make a huge difference? I thought that was always a bit of a marketing ploy to buy really expensive super light rims.

I got some old gatorskins lying around that are plenty heavy.

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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:49 am

whitestivo wrote:Person 1, averages 26kmh individual, bike good

Person 2 averages 31kmh individual, bike very good

How do you get the two to ride together. I've tried person 1 drafting person 2. I've tried person 2 running 80psi in tyres and wearing tshirt, and still no good.

What can I do to slow myself down, while still maintaining riding intensity. No point me just riding slow.

Should i just buy a $100 woolies MTB and cross train?

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If the riders are similar morphologically speaking, then rider 1 would need another 50% more power to be able to ride next to rider 2.
That is a very big gap. Too big a gap for drafting to overcome and especially large when hills come into it.

I would suggest rider 2 schedule a recovery ride day when riding with rider 1.
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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby whitestivo » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:36 pm

what is the widest tyre i can run on a set of ultegra 6600 rims

700c 23 is standard

could i get to 32, or only to 28

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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby alchemist » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:04 pm

whitestivo wrote:what is the widest tyre i can run on a set of ultegra 6600 rims

700c 23 is standard

could i get to 32, or only to 28

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35mm will work. I suspect you'll be limited by clearance on the frame/fork and brake.
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Re: Two Riders, different speed, riding together

Postby whitestivo » Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:27 pm

Update

I bought myself an old school shogun katana, complete with 14speeds and 36 spoke rims. I has wanted an old school bike for a while, can be hard to find one in good nic.

Shes heavy, but a beauty. This will be new training bike until person 1 speeds up.

Then it might turn into a fixie for kicks. I'd post up a pic, but not sure how.

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