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Re: This is harder...

Postby Marty Moose » Fri May 07, 2010 6:59 pm

You should be in the catwalk you waif :) :) Well done.
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Re: This is harder...

Postby toolonglegs » Fri May 07, 2010 7:36 pm

Muffin top waif :lol: .
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Re: This is harder...

Postby Wino » Sat May 08, 2010 2:58 pm

I tried being normal once. Worst 5 minutes of my life!

Well done on getting there. I'm still a little way off. :(
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Re: This is harder...

Postby toolonglegs » Sat May 08, 2010 3:19 pm

It has taken me 10 weeks to go from 105 to 94...now if I can do half that in the next ten weeks I will be very happy.
Counting calories sucks thou...but it is working.
Without CalorieKing I wouldn't have managed.
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Re: This is harder...

Postby donncha » Sat May 08, 2010 5:55 pm

toolonglegs wrote:But low and behold....today I have a BMI of a normal person....BMI 25!!!.


Woo hoo! Me too today :)
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Re: This is harder...

Postby tripstobaltimore » Sat May 08, 2010 6:01 pm

urgh calorie counting is so had. I dont really watch what I eat at the moment in terms of calories (Though I do eat VERY healthy). But I found when I tried to be more careful and restrict intake, I wasn't recovering from training very well and severly lacking energy.

At the moment I don't think I'm losing weight (in fact I have put on weight since I was being careful) but I'm almost certain its muscle as I am much more defined.
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Re: This is harder...

Postby toolonglegs » Sat May 08, 2010 6:39 pm

Nice one Donncha!.
I have always eaten very healthy...just eaten too much!.Can't wait to get to my "goal" weight so I can go back to 2600 Kcal per day :oops: .
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Re: This is harder...

Postby twizzle » Sat May 08, 2010 9:21 pm

Was talking to the other 'big' rider in B grade today (a TT specialist who is VERY PISSED that I beat him by three seconds today) and he was telling me how he had plateaued despite riding 500km a week and eating insufficient Kj's. He's recently tried some diet pills to kick-start the weight loss process again... and it appears to have worked. I'll ask him what they are.
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Re: This is harder...

Postby toolonglegs » Sat May 08, 2010 9:26 pm

I have some diet pills that I got yesterday...mainly green tea extract and other stuff...but they were cheap and I have wanted to try the Green Tea extract for a while.
Let your mate carry on with his pointless 500km's a week...some people never learn!.
I have eaten my 2000Kcals already for the day today...back better hold out for my race!.
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Re: This is harder...

Postby toolonglegs » Sat May 08, 2010 9:32 pm

Here's my June race...not ideal...I am not team leader thou,but I will give the prolouge a good go!.What got you today Twiz?...dropped on the climbs?.
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Re: This is harder...

Postby orphic » Mon May 10, 2010 9:04 pm

I just had a blow out week. Too scared to look at the scales... Last night I eat cake for dessert I promise :oops:
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Re: This is harder...

Postby twizzle » Mon May 10, 2010 10:20 pm

I'll post up the profile pic later, but my problem was that the time bonuses were always after a climb and if they had been at the end of a flat I would have gone for it.

Funny story - I'm cruising along off the front of the bunch... doing about 40kph, when I hear someone yell "Michael, gun it!"... so I went to warp speed, pulling about 50km/h... glanced back and he was gone. I had to slow down so he could get on my wheel before we could get our break moving again. :lol:
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Re: This is harder...

Postby mikesbytes » Mon May 10, 2010 11:22 pm

orphic wrote:I just had a blow out week. Too scared to look at the scales... Last night I eat cake for dessert I promise :oops:


Must of been that huge birthday cake
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Re: This is harder...

Postby toolonglegs » Wed May 12, 2010 1:58 am

mmmm...cake :oops: .
Keep at it Orphic!.
I had a measure up today...
Waist 91cm / Hips 103cm /Chest 103cm / Thigh 59cm
Lost a cm on the hips and waist and 4cm on the thighs...hope the thighs is just lard as I don't want to be losing muscle!.
Anyway if power stays the same or better I can't complain...staying on 2000Kcals has seemed easier the last few weeks for some reason...although weight may be dropping a little too fast.
If my back felt better I would be feeling very optimistic...but training is not going well :cry: .
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Re: This is harder...

Postby ft_critical » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:53 pm

I have been trying to loose weight for two months. I have lost 3.5kg. I can see the number 78 on the scales. This was my target. I thought I would post a few observations...

    - You are eating for next week. I.e., what you did last week will show up on the scales this week. Seems obvious, but it covers, wow I ate a pizza and drank a bottle of wine last night and look I am still losing weight....
    - Losing weight is personal. I had to do it my way. I can't not eat a biggish dinner. If I graze, I just end up eating more. So for me, sticking to 3 square meals was the approach. That is, I just cut out snacks.
    - Small reductions can make a big difference. In essence, I cut out 450 calories a day. That is 1 coffee, two pieces of toast as a snack in the morning and an after dinner snack of say biscuits or something. Not much of a reduction but big effect.
    - The program has to be sustainable. Alcohol. Look I love it. I like lots of it. I tried abstinence but, well that is not me. I set a limit that is reasonable and I can stick to. I could loose more weight if I drank less, but I am prepared to live with slower weight loss.

That is enough….
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Re: This is harder...

Postby toolonglegs » Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:09 pm

Nice one FT...I am fighting a losing battle at the moment :oops: .
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Re: This is harder...

Postby Zynster » Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:41 am

Losing weight is a game of snakes and ladders. I slacked off a bit over the last month and my weight creeped up 2kg. Though I'm pretty sure some of that was muscle, some of it was also going to fat. FT has it nailed. It's the snacks that are killers. I have a weak spot for danishes. I swear they go 100% on your waistline.
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Re: This is harder...

Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:05 am

Zynster wrote:Losing weight is a game of snakes and ladders. I slacked off a bit over the last month and my weight creeped up 2kg. Though I'm pretty sure some of that was muscle, some of it was also going to fat. FT has it nailed. It's the snacks that are killers. I have a weak spot for danishes. I swear they go 100% on your waistline.


Agree with ft and Zysnster.

Have managed to get from 102kg (post overseas trip) down to 93.2, but really need to work at the "fork control" as so succinctly put by TLL, and keep off the snacks.

For me, things like muffins etc go 150% to my waistline :?
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Re: This is harder...

Postby orphic » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:04 am

I'm struggling a bit.

I don't eat crap food, I just eat a lot of healthy food. I get sooo hungry. Particularly on hard training days.

After reading the last few points I am going to cut the small meals thing and see if big meals, less often work better for me. Maybe I'll feel better if I actually get to that point of feeling full a few times a day, rather than a little bit hungry all day long.
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Re: This is harder...

Postby orphic » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:29 pm

Thinking about the above, it may be what I eat (or lack thereof) directly after training that is causing the all day hunger.

I can't do a shake, it needs to be something I can carry in my pocket or buy at the cafe... Preferably the latter, although I'm off the caffeine. And preferably no more than 200cals so it doesn't blow my budget. What are my options? Would skim hot chocolate fit the bill?
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Re: This is harder...

Postby toolonglegs » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:32 pm

Hot chocolate is good...protein and carbs and fat...mmmmmm fat!.
I used to chug those yummy honey choco drinks they sell ready to go in Oz....yum.

I have been to scared to stand on the scales :oops: ...no exercise / strong pain killers now becoming the norm and comfort / boredom eating....really need to watch it!.
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Re: This is harder...

Postby mikesbytes » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:07 pm

orphic wrote:Thinking about the above, it may be what I eat (or lack thereof) directly after training that is causing the all day hunger.

I can't do a shake, it needs to be something I can carry in my pocket or buy at the cafe... Preferably the latter, although I'm off the caffeine. And preferably no more than 200cals so it doesn't blow my budget. What are my options? Would skim hot chocolate fit the bill?


You need to research it. Skim milk has a higher sugar content than Full cream. And how does chocolate, the sort put in hot chocolates compare with coffee?
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Re: This is harder...

Postby orphic » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:53 pm

But it's post ride. That's when I want the sugar :D
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Re: This is harder...

Postby Marty Moose » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:37 pm

toolonglegs wrote:Hot chocolate is good...protein and carbs and fat...mmmmmm fat!.
I used to chug those yummy honey choco drinks they sell ready to go in Oz....yum.

I have been to scared to stand on the scales :oops: ...no exercise / strong pain killers now becoming the norm and comfort / boredom eating....really need to watch it!.


Come on TLL you have done so well keep writing down and weighing your food. You are telling us you are eating bad its a choice remember!

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Re: This is harder...

Postby toolonglegs » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:12 am

Yeah I know... :oops: .
I always eat healthy...just sometimes too much.I am a bit depressed at the moment which doesn't help...4 weeks without a descent ride can do that :evil: .
Luckily I haven't put on the weight like I thought...braved standing on the scales to find I am only up 1 kilo which I can live with.While I am injured is the best time to lose weight...just got to do it!.
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