How to run?
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How to run?
Postby GrumpySmurf » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:01 pm
- What do you wear that is comfortable? I get chaffing between my thighs in long walks. So, what shorts / shirt?
- Which shoes is the good one / which is not? Is spending more going to be better?
- Hydration - there's no bidon cage on my legs so where do you carry water?
Lastly, can I get the shoes / shorts / shirt etc from an online place cheaply?
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Re: How to run?
Postby uncle arthur » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:14 pm
GrumpySmurf wrote:To have some variety, I thought I should go back to try some running (just a bit though!). 9 months ago, I started the C25K (Couch to 5 K) program and did OK upto week 4/5 or so. I am now a lot fitter and lighter from cycling, so should be able to continue the program. But stupid basic questions I have for runners are;
Running singlet or shirt - shirt made of lightweight wicking material - Mountain Designs often sell the right sort of thing out of their outlet stores as a thermal/hiking undershirt. Shorts - whatever light material feels good for you. I run in thigh length tights - like bikepants/skins only waaaay cheaper - plenty of options out there - Slazenger do one that you can get from Target/Kmart, or try Sports outlet stores.GrumpySmurf wrote:- What do you wear that is comfortable? I get chaffing between my thighs in long walks. So, what shorts / shirt?
The best shoes are the ones that fit you properly - go to a reputable sportshoe retailer, and buy for fit and function. No point in wearing a "bargain" if your feet hurt - and trust me - blisters suck a$$GrumpySmurf wrote:- Which shoes is the good one / which is not? Is spending more going to be better?
You can buy a bumbag with bottle holder that can also carry keys etc - I have one from Asics that cost me about $20GrumpySmurf wrote:- Hydration - there's no bidon cage on my legs so where do you carry water?
Torpedo7 has all sorts of good stuff in clothing and accessories, but unless you can hold your feet against your keyboard/monitor and they can measure your foot size, width, last (the curve of your foot from heel to toe) and assess your gait, I'd stick with a shoe store. Amart all sports has shoe clearances all the time - I buy from there. Make use of the staff to help you, and the savings to save $$$GrumpySmurf wrote:Lastly, can I get the shoes / shorts / shirt etc from an online place cheaply?
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Re: How to run?
Postby Unko » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:56 am
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Re: How to run?
Postby Aushiker » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:14 am
HiGrumpySmurf wrote:- What do you wear that is comfortable? I get chaffing between my thighs in long walks. So, what shorts / shirt?
I am very new to running so I just picked up initially a pair of running shorts and a wicking shirt from K Mart. Cost about $30 for the lot. I have since picked up a couple of shirts and pair of shorts from Wiggle. Again for around $20 to $25 per item.
My shoes cost me $200 but I can really notice the difference over my previous "runners". I went to the shoe mob that has the tester that you walk over, Athletes Foot IIRC. Found them very good.Which shoes is the good one / which is not? Is spending more going to be better?
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Re: How to run?
Postby neild » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:34 am
You definitely need to get fitted for your first pair of running shoes. The different brands all have different fits and you will find some much more comfortable for your foot type than others - and that's even before you get to the whole motion control - stability - cushioning debate. As Aushiker said, go to a store where they actually look at you while you're running / assess what you need, not just try pushing a brand onto you. As for online purchase for shoes, once you have a brand etc that you like then I say go for it. I prefer Mizuno shoes and the last pair I bought were Wave Rider 11's from Wiggle for $90. Rebel sport had them for about $220! Though I had already had 2 pairs of these before so was pretty confident with the sizing and fit. Most expensive doesn't always mean best for you.
Chaffing will always be an issue, it's just a matter of building up to it. You can wear some form of tights (like skins) under your shorts which will help. The other option is something called Body Glide (I think that's what it's called). It's a lubricant that comes as a stick (think glue stick) that you put over the offending parts to stop chaffing. The other thing you will discover potentially is nipple chaffing! Never a pretty sight getting home with a couple of blood red streaks running down you top! I'm running the marathon this weekend so my distances are a bit longer than yours, just giving you a heads up. Again you can get little guards to put over them, and I've also read surgical tape works too.
As for carrying water etc. There are plenty of options out there. Again it's jsut about something that is comfortable and not too bulky. I've got a couple of different ones, fuel belt is one brand, but I just tend to take a single house key and $5 or so when I run now and plan the run to include water fountains. This isn't always possible but I would suggest not trying to take too much with you. The good thing about the fuel belts is that they use smaller bottles, so rather than having a single 5-600ml bottle to carry, you can have 3 or 4 200ml ones so you can spead the weight around. This also lets you mix up what you take - half just water and half gatoraid.
Good luck and keep it up. It's amazing how quickly you improve. Just remember to take it slow and not push yourself too hard too soon or try increasing you distances too quickly. Some of those online training guides or the ones in Runners World they publish every now and then are handy references.
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Re: How to run?
Postby pompom1 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:10 pm
I just wear a singlet, shorts and some old runners. It probably depends on how serious you are going to take it and the distances you will run.
In terms of hydration I just have about 750ml before I leave.
Have fun getting into it, I have so far.
Oh yeah its far more fun if you can find a partner to run with too.
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Re: How to run?
Postby Cinder » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:39 pm
Interested to hear more about this C25K...GrumpySmurf wrote:To have some variety, I thought I should go back to try some running (just a bit though!). 9 months ago, I started the C25K (Couch to 5 K) program and did OK upto week 4/5 or so. I am now a lot fitter and lighter from cycling, so should be able to continue the program. But stupid basic questions I have for runners are;
- What do you wear that is comfortable? I get chaffing between my thighs in long walks. So, what shorts / shirt?
- Which shoes is the good one / which is not? Is spending more going to be better?
- Hydration - there's no bidon cage on my legs so where do you carry water?
Lastly, can I get the shoes / shorts / shirt etc from an online place cheaply?
Anyway, when I used to run...
I wore baggy shorts, for me they work, a lot of people use running shorts, and if your prone to chafing this may be a good plan. Shirt, I always had something made for running, I wore shirts because I have girly guns, but a singlet will be cooler (but more area to get burnt).
In terms of shoes, as has been said, make sure you get a really good fit. For a long time I wore the wrong soe based on advice from a well known shoe store chain. Getting the right ones make a world of difference, and make sure you ask about shoe wear, they don't last for ever (or as long as most people think).
Hydration, I used to make sure I ran where I could get to water. A camelbak I don't think will be fun, carrying a water bottle is annoying and you've gotta be pretty keen to get one of those little belts.
Buying stuff online, give it a whirl if you're brave, I would as fit is very, very important with sporting gear (think comfort).
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Re: How to run?
Postby Pickles » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:24 pm
There is a bit of info regarding the C25K program. Some people have developed podcasts to download that use music combined with narration for prompts. Some of the narration is pretty dry but it works. I have attached some of the resources for you.
Rob Ullrey's podcasts http://www.ullreys.com/robert/Podcasts/index.html
Steve Boyett's podcasts http://www.djsteveboy.com/1day25k.html
Graham has decifered the program from imperial to metric http://www.cairnscommunications.com/fit ... -to-5k.htm
I have used these resources and ran the Perth City2surf with my 8 yo son. It is a great way to ease back into running.
Good luck
Pickles
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Re: How to run?
Postby Thoglette » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:57 am
shorts - whatever. Boardies or running baggies. I'm lucky it doesn't matter. Underwear choice is more importantGrumpySmurf wrote: - What do you wear that is comfortable? I get chaffing between my thighs in long walks. So, what shorts / shirt?
- Which shoes is the good one / which is not? Is spending more going to be better?
- Hydration - there's no bidon cage on my legs so where do you carry water?
Lastly, can I get the shoes / shorts / shirt etc from an online place cheaply?
Shirt - cotton polo in hot weather, bicycle jersey in cold (room for beanie, keys and gloves in pockets)
Shoes - one trip to the foot/knee doctor avoided pays for many, many shoes. Get proper running shoes fitted properly. (best advice my other half gave on running other than "go for a run. Now!")
Hydration - I don't run for more than an hour - and that only once in a while. Normally it's half that Rugby knees, you see. I can carb up/water up for that far.
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Re: How to run?
Postby casual_cyclist » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:10 am
I am doing it. Before I started C25k...Cinder wrote:Interested to hear more about this C25K...GrumpySmurf wrote:To have some variety, I thought I should go back to try some running (just a bit though!). 9 months ago, I started the C25K (Couch to 5 K) program and did OK upto week 4/5 or so. I am now a lot fitter and lighter from cycling, so should be able to continue the program. But stupid basic questions I have for runners are;
- What do you wear that is comfortable? I get chaffing between my thighs in long walks. So, what shorts / shirt?
- Which shoes is the good one / which is not? Is spending more going to be better?
- Hydration - there's no bidon cage on my legs so where do you carry water?
Lastly, can I get the shoes / shorts / shirt etc from an online place cheaply?
Run 1 - I ran a km. I was so out of breath and my heart was beating so hard I actually thought I was going to die. Went home.
Run 2 - I ran a km. I was so out of breath and my heart was beating so hard I actually thought I was going to die. Went home.
Quit running. Took up cycling. Much easier.
Decided to do a half ironman (mid life crisis )
C25k Week 1 Day 1 - run 60 seconds, walk 90 seconds, rinse and repeat 8 times (8 minutes of running)
Yes, I finished. It seemed easy. I was so sore that walking hurt for 10 days.
I quit running again.
Back to the half ironman thing again. I must learn how to run.
Day 1 60 seconds of running
Day 2 (a couple of days later) 2x60 second intervals
Day 3 (another couple of days) 4x60 seconds.
I think all up it was about 6 weeks before I completed Week 1 Day 1
Stuck to the program after that. By the end of Week 4 I ran my first 5k - 37 minutes.
End of Week 5, another 5k 32 minutes.
It does work.
I actually started enjoying running.
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Re: How to run?
Postby Spiza » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:45 am
They have a beginner section and heaps of feedback on the C25K program.
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Re: How to run?
Postby Robdog » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:44 pm
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Re: How to run?
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Re: How to run?
Postby Wayfarer » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:45 pm
bike shorts under normal boardshorts
- Which shoes is the good one / which is not? Is spending more going to be better?
if you get a chance, check out the nike frees. best running shoe by far. wiggle (believe it or not) also has a dedicated 'run' section.
- Hydration - there's no bidon cage on my legs so where do you carry water?
water??!?? ingest before the run!!
also, check out this site http://www.newton-running.com.au/run-be ... nning-form
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Re: How to run?
Postby BarryTas » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:25 pm
i wear a running singlet and running shorts (weather depending)
drink before and after a run
oh and good shoes that fit and and made for you foor type and the way you run are like gold!!!!!!!
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Re: How to run?
Postby zoomer » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:56 pm
I'm a fitness freak thats why i only recently got into cycling to do less running and gym etc but keeping up the fitness and I love it.GrumpySmurf wrote:- What do you wear that is comfortable? I get chaffing between my thighs in long walks. So, what shorts / shirt?
- Which shoes is the good one / which is not? Is spending more going to be better?
- Hydration - there's no bidon cage on my legs so where do you carry water?
Lastly, can I get the shoes / shorts / shirt etc from an online place cheaply?
For me running shorts with the built in undies are the best, I used to chaff when wearing the undies/boxers under the shorts and havent looked back since, and I only wear a good fitting singlet but not so baggy that your always adjusting while your running but a nice firm fit.
As for shoes spend the cash and get a decent pair of Asics (i bought a pair for $300), trust me these shoes are unbeleiveably comfortable and they really do make a big difference. When you have 4 times your body weight (380kg for me) going through your feet while running only a decent shoe like Asics are designed specifically to cushion the soles.
Cheers
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Re: How to run?
Postby BarryTas » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:34 pm
zoomer wrote:I'm a fitness freak thats why i only recently got into cycling to do less running and gym etc but keeping up the fitness and I love it.GrumpySmurf wrote:- What do you wear that is comfortable? I get chaffing between my thighs in long walks. So, what shorts / shirt?
- Which shoes is the good one / which is not? Is spending more going to be better?
- Hydration - there's no bidon cage on my legs so where do you carry water?
Lastly, can I get the shoes / shorts / shirt etc from an online place cheaply?
For me running shorts with the built in undies are the best, I used to chaff when wearing the undies/boxers under the shorts and havent looked back since, and I only wear a good fitting singlet but not so baggy that your always adjusting while your running but a nice firm fit.
As for shoes spend the cash and get a decent pair of Asics (i bought a pair for $300), trust me these shoes are unbeleiveably comfortable and they really do make a big difference. When you have 4 times your body weight (380kg for me) going through your feet while running only a decent shoe like Asics are designed specifically to cushion the soles.
Cheers
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i have a 10km fun run this week end, the bigest one in Oz.......must break 40mins and dodge LOTS of people
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Re: How to run?
Postby casual_cyclist » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:57 pm
I lost my running shorts so used some rugger shorts. I got bad chafing on a very short run so looked for something else. I am actually running in Anaconda knicks because they barely have any padding. They seem to be working so far but if need be I will unstich the padding and remove it and make these dedicated running shorts. Anyway, they stop the chafingGrumpySmurf wrote:But stupid basic questions I have for runners are;
- What do you wear that is comfortable? I get chaffing between my thighs in long walks. So, what shorts / shirt?
I am just using coolmax type material running singlets but if I was going to run on a sunny day for too long I would wear a long sleeved coolmax type top. I got my singlets from New Balance for $10. There is an outlet at Harbour Town.
P.S. not a stupid questions at all.
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Re: How to run?
Postby fatherofmany » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:59 pm
SO... why don't you work out a loop that gets back to your house after say 20 min of running, that way you can leave a bottle on the doorstep (or in the letterbox) for a couple of quick gulps each lap before setting off again.
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