How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depression?
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby rockviewau » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:45 pm
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby notwal » Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:11 am
I add my endorsement for the exercise fix and add that cycling seems the best in my experience although I think swimming may be just as effective.
Of cycling, windsurfing, weight training and walking I would say cycling is best but they all work to some degree. I think cycling just seems to invite more work or rather the work load is widely tunable so you find yourself whimsically extending yourself and even after putting in a grunty effort you can keep going.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby Chops » Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:49 am
Exactly. That's what I like about cycling. You can go as hard or as easy as you want, and how you're feeling. If you're doing weights, you're working hard regardless. Same with running (for me). You can cruise to clear your head and have a look, or you can push it.Downhill wrote: I suffer from mild though chronic depression. Fortunately for me it's more of a grey dog than a black one. With adequate exercise I feel normal (even happy). Without it, the depression returns. Exercise allows me to control it. And as for cycling, how else can you get fresh air, changing scenery, and a good aerobic exercise while sitting down?
But sometimes just clocking up k's in the morning (when I generally ride poorly), is really nice. A couple of spots I often head to especially in the morning because you see some really cool birds.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby Uncle Grumpy » Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:29 am
Basically, the reduced light or winter is the culprit. I think though there might be complicating factors, such as becoming a little more sedentary.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby twizzle » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:12 am
...real cyclists don't have squeaky chains...
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby Tim » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:05 pm
I am also prone to bouts of the cursed condition but when I ride I experience a return of that joy. Cycling is fun.
I live on the Gippsland Lakes, which, with the arrival of Spring brings about a cheerful explosion of new life. On a bike I can see, hear and smell the lambs and calves, the greener new grass, wildflowers, birdlife, echidnas, bluetongues, wallabies, snakes, (some admittedly flattened on the roadside), warm winds, boats, and all manner of things that restore that sometimes missing joy.
Cycling on its own helps ease depression, but now that Winter is over it has become even more enjoyable.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby Downhill » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:15 am
The human body is genetically disposed to slowing down in winter. It makes me wonder whether a big part of S.A.D. is purely the lack of exercise.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby toolonglegs » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:44 am
Anyway today I took the decision to start riding again...I have to take pain killers daily anyway so might as well get outdoors for a ride.
Result...20kms (at a pretty slow av I am sure!)...but even thou I am in a fair bit of pain now,I enjoyed myself all the same...good medicine for the head!.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby DrJay » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:27 am
Firstly, thankyou everyone for keeping the discussion helpful, particularly given people disclosing about their mental health.
Secondly, my disclosure: I haven't had depression, but I am a headshrinker.
Thirdly, there is excellent evidenced for exercise in depression, even just walking. It is thought to be chemically mediated by the endorphins, but all the reasons given about getting out and about, seeing stuff, etc are also valid.
Fourthly, sunlight probably also is a factor. Seasonal Affective Disorder is real, and is largely thought to be related to daylight hours. it's much more pronounced at higher latitudes where the variation in daylight hours from season to season is greater. We also tend to experience a rush of manic episodes for people with Bipolar Disorder (especially type I) in spring. (as in "the ward is half full of manics, it must be spring", which I've heard more than once). One of my patients has a significant seasonal component and I spend all winter trying to treat his depression, only to have spring fix it. Another gets psychotically manic every summer, unless she takes a particular medication with significant side effects; so she only takes it in summer!
Fifth, I'm not familiar with all the books recommended, but the Sarah Edelman book is excellent, so is Beating the Blues, by Sue Tanner and Gillian Ball (which is a local one).
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby BarryTas » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:22 pm
before i got my gym membership, i would be climbing the walls if it was raining at the weekends.
Now day light saving has kicked in i am a very happy chappy
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby malnar » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:29 pm
My life is grey, disengaged and generally blah. I take pleasure in music and outdoor exercise and that’s about it. Sometimes I don’t feel like heading out for exercise but I’ve never regretted a single session. I always feel better during, and for a while after exercise. When I’m exercising my whole persona is more confident and optimistic.
After a commute to work I feel serene and quietly awesome for a while. I almost can’t believe it’s me that has achieved what I have (relatively moderate as they are).
I live near the Werribee river. Last summer I bit the bullet and went for a tentative swim. I had no ill effects and absolutely loved it. In the end I did about 30 swims in the river last summer (usually about 400m upstream & back again). Can’t wait to get back in there again as soon as the weather’s warm enough. That will be a magnificent way to finish a 32km commute home.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby roobab » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:09 pm
Plus, the extra oxygen outdoors makes me feel better.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby Downhill » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:49 am
Part of my reason for cycling is that the aerobic workout allows me to enjoy other activities even more. It's great for getting "scuba" fit in time for summer. Good for bush walking too. The exercise produces an avalanche effect, because getting fit in one sport allows you to enjoy more activities, which extends your social network, which makes you more active ... and on it goes.malnar wrote:Outdoor exercise is very important for keeping my dysthymia (chronic lower lever depression) at bay.
My life is grey, disengaged and generally blah. I take pleasure in music and outdoor exercise and that’s about it. Sometimes I don’t feel like heading out for exercise but I’ve never regretted a single session. I always feel better during, and for a while after exercise. When I’m exercising my whole persona is more confident and optimistic.
After a commute to work I feel serene and quietly awesome for a while. I almost can’t believe it’s me that has achieved what I have (relatively moderate as they are).
I live near the Werribee river. Last summer I bit the bullet and went for a tentative swim. I had no ill effects and absolutely loved it. In the end I did about 30 swims in the river last summer (usually about 400m upstream & back again). Can’t wait to get back in there again as soon as the weather’s warm enough. That will be a magnificent way to finish a 32km commute home.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby Orion » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:54 pm
Earlier this year I suffered a major exacerbation of depression - so bad I ended up quitting work. Didn't ride for several weeks which probably didn't help either. In hindsight maybe a leave of absence from work might have been a better idea but this horrible depression impacts my ability to think clearly.
Cycling has been very important in my recovery this time around. I think it's a combination of the exercise and being outside. I live in a semi-rural area and there are a lot of pretty areas to ride around.
So year, cycling is pretty important to me.
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Postby Downhill » Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:16 pm
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Postby Quinns Rocks Roadie » Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:58 pm
Riding to work I find is of great benefit....you arrive warmed up, alert and ready to go.
When I don't ride I get slack, content to sit on the couch, listening to tv, sipping beer, wasting far too much time on forums like this one, and nothing gets done !.
Being fit is tonic for life in general.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby jules21 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:49 pm
i think it helps but i wouldn't call it fundamental. depression has causes and you can't simplify it to just always lack of exercise. i have suffered and it was a journey to overcome it, for the time being at least. i learned a lot about myself in overcoming it - what made me tick. exercise is important but it's not a cure on its own. i do think it better equips you to deal with some of the challenges that can trigger depression, though.Chops wrote:So how important is cycling and any other physical activity to your mental health? And how low do you get if you can't ride?
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby cavebear2 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:21 pm
All the best Ian & looking forward to better days to come!toolonglegs wrote:Anyway today I took the decision to start riding again...I have to take pain killers daily anyway so might as well get outdoors for a ride.
Result...20kms (at a pretty slow av I am sure!)...but even thou I am in a fair bit of pain now,I enjoyed myself all the same...good medicine for the head!.
As for me, cycling has transformed my life - I hate spending too many hours off the bike.
I just love the eating side of things plus my wife is actually enjoying the whole cycling thing. We rode out to the Swan Valley yesterday (53 km round trip) for a long lunch at our favourite local winery. After the ride back I went for a quick 36km ride and felt totally on top of things, not feeling as if I had over eaten or over imbibed which is how I would have felt if I had driven home and sat in front of the TV after a large meal and a few wines.
My outlook has trended very much to the positive side with 'this cycling life' of mine. Whizzing down the long hill near Canning Dam on Saturday I could relate to Cadel Evans Book title 'Close to Flying'.
Also the long battle with injury (3 years) with my subsequent recent success/victory has played a role in my current simple and contented state of happiness.
Gotta love those endorphins!
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby flammer » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:52 pm
That's why I don't add it up! And by buying when the AU$ is up and I save $2 in FX, I feel justified.miyata84 wrote:....as long as none of us get depressed when we sit down and tally up how much we have actually spent at Wiggles, c r c, Ribbles and PBK!
Back to the topic; I agree with lots of the above. Though bagging antidepressants is like telling hypertension sufferers to calm down.
On Sunday I was feeling generally 'blah', physically and emotionally. Almost didn't ride. But decided that it was the needed tonic. It really kicked in when I pumped up a short, very sharp hill, 20 km in. Felt great then! More rolling hills and then pushed hard for 20 km. Break for coke and powerbar and pumped the last 20.
Serotonin, ladies and gentlemen, is produced by hard exercise and sleeping. We need it for everything from mood management to digestion. So cycling for me makes me happier.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby open roader » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:11 pm
After a ride I find I'm far more decisive, casting aside procrastinations which might have built up over time and I have plans and strategy worked out for how to tackle the stuff of life.
The only time I returned from a ride on a lower ebb was when I first took up cycling after a long hiatus (25 years) and I had pushed myself too hard. That only happened once. I can honestly say both my mental and physical states are 'enhanced' with cycling in my life.
I work as a gardener, tending to 3 very large gardens, so I'm regularly doing moderate power work during the course of my duties. Cycling has improved my endurance so I find work easier to complete. 18 months ago I was buggered after most days at work. Now I can work 6 hours straight and go for a 20/30/40/50 km ride when I get home and then sit up 'til 11:00pm telling this forum all about it.........!!
Cycling is a very big plus, quite the mood elevator for me.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
Postby Downhill » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:02 am
You're not wrong there. One of the reasons why I cycle is to keep my mind sharp. I've noticed that when I keep fit, I seem to have more of those "light bulb" moments when it comes to problem solving. By that, I mean those flashes of inspiration when the solution to a tough problem just pops into your head and leaves you wondering, "Now where did that come from?"open roader wrote:...Cycling is my mind cleanser...
I'm no expert, but I've heard that the compounds released by the body during exercise vastly improve the ability of brain cells to communicate with each other. This allows the brain to reconnect with the specific cells that have stored a particular memory when the need for that memory becomes significant.
There's one thing for sure - go for a ride today and things will appear to flow much more smoothly at work tomorrow. You will be far more productive and that assists in creating a positive frame of mind.
Todays effort = tomorrow's reward.
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
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Re: How Important is Cycling/ Exercise to Your Mood/ Depress
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