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I need to climb hills better

Postby jheeno » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:25 pm

any advice on what to do to improve my hill climbing ability aside from riding more ?

jogging ? i get bored of jogging quickly and I dont think I can keep it up for a long time
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby Ross » Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:40 pm

Unless you are planning to do triathlons I don't think jogging would have any benefit for you. Practice makes perfect, ride more hills.
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby Fresh » Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:58 pm

Lose weight and ride more hills.
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby sogood » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:07 pm

Lose weight and just ride lots more at higher intensity.
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby Baldy » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:11 pm

Ride with someone who is faster up hill than you.

You will go faster, eventually :P :lol:
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby trailgumby » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:48 pm

Hill repeats. :twisted: :lol:

Find a hill that will take you 5 minutes to climb. Climb it. Repeatedly.

Ride at low intensity for 5 minutes between starting each climb, to recover. Do it 3 times at first, then add one more per week. Make sure you're warmed up thoroughly before starting, say 25 minutes moderate effort.
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:25 am

Baldy wrote:Ride with someone who is faster up hill than you.

You will go faster, eventually :P :lol:


1. Enter race in C grade
2. Fall off the back of the bunch on the hills
3. Ride like an idiot until you catch the back of the bunch
4. Swear because there's another hill coming up
5. Eventually get dropped, but take consolation in the fact that someone else also got dropped.
6. Take a nice ride to the finish line with new friend.
7. Do not repeat steps 2 - 6.

So that was my Saturday, how was yours?
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby Baldy » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:00 am

:lol: Sounds uncanningly like my one and only road race, only mine was vets D-grade 8)

The other option for you jheeno is Strava, its a great little motivation tool.
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby toolonglegs » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:05 am

Eat tainted steak :| .
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby fatherofmany » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:27 am

toolonglegs wrote:Eat tainted steak :| .


:lol: :lol:

Break the hill down into sections. Say 50m ahead, ride to that point then pick another point 50m ahead and ride to that. keep 'rinsing and repeating' till the hill is over.

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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby jheeno » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:42 pm

i guess the only option is to ride more hills ...
as far as lose weight ... with the bike im working on it
with the body yeah losing half a kilo here and there every fortnight
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby foo on patrol » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:31 pm

Ride the hills as you have been and attack the last 50mtrs of it and keep going for 50mtrs over the top hard. Do this for a couple of weeks and then lift the speed on the way up while still giving it your all for the 50mtrs before and after. Just keep increasing the intensity as you find things getting easier! :wink:
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby scotto » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:53 am

bigfriendlyvegan wrote:
Baldy wrote:Ride with someone who is faster up hill than you.

You will go faster, eventually :P :lol:


1. Enter race in C grade
2. Fall off the back of the bunch on the hills
3. Ride like an idiot until you catch the back of the bunch
4. Swear because there's another hill coming up
5. Eventually get dropped, but take consolation in the fact that someone else also got dropped.
6. Take a nice ride to the finish line with new friend.
7. Do not repeat steps 2 - 6.

So that was my Saturday, how was yours?

i noticed you did not say "do not repeat step 1" good boy !
i assume that was horsely park ? i missed that due to work but am keen to visit. it cant be worse than road racing at Oakville..
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby BarryTas » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:33 am

do you have a cadence monitor???????

if it's a hill ie 4 about 1-4kms long (AT) about 8% then drop it to the small chain ring and spin it at 80-90 rpm
when do we stop for coffee???

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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby DaveOZ » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:40 am

foo on patrol wrote: Just keep increasing the intensity as you find things getting easier! :wink:


Greg LeMond once said climbing "never gets easier - you just go faster". I tend to agree with him.
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby fatherofmany » Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:16 pm

DaveOZ wrote:Greg LeMond once said climbing "never gets easier - you just go faster". I tend to agree with him.


Is that who it was, I concur, hills are just like that.
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby goneriding » Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:38 pm

scotto wrote:
bigfriendlyvegan wrote:
Baldy wrote:Ride with someone who is faster up hill than you.

You will go faster, eventually :P :lol:


1. Enter race in C grade
2. Fall off the back of the bunch on the hills
3. Ride like an idiot until you catch the back of the bunch
4. Swear because there's another hill coming up
5. Eventually get dropped, but take consolation in the fact that someone else also got dropped.
6. Take a nice ride to the finish line with new friend.
7. Do not repeat steps 2 - 6.

So that was my Saturday, how was yours?

i noticed you did not say "do not repeat step 1" good boy !
i assume that was horsely park ? i missed that due to work but am keen to visit. it cant be worse than road racing at Oakville..


Rumour has it there were a couple of LACC and Penrith guys imitating TdF broken bones in C grade.

Re the hills. IMO there are a couple of different considerations with climbing. The first is short hills that are taken at high intensity and the second is longer climbs where establishing a consistent rhythm is needed.

Hill intervals (previously mentioned) are always good for the former and latter. Getting your body used to long continuous climbs is valuable for getting your body used to climbing with respect to heart rate and position on the bike.
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:13 pm

goneriding wrote:
scotto wrote:
bigfriendlyvegan wrote:1. Enter race in C grade
2. Fall off the back of the bunch on the hills
3. Ride like an idiot until you catch the back of the bunch
4. Swear because there's another hill coming up
5. Eventually get dropped, but take consolation in the fact that someone else also got dropped.
6. Take a nice ride to the finish line with new friend.
7. Do not repeat steps 2 - 6.

So that was my Saturday, how was yours?

i noticed you did not say "do not repeat step 1" good boy !
i assume that was horsely park ? i missed that due to work but am keen to visit. it cant be worse than road racing at Oakville..


Rumour has it there were a couple of LACC and Penrith guys imitating TdF broken bones in C grade.


Read the race report thread for an update on the crash.

@scotto: I'm not going to improve unless I extend myself. Horsley park was very different to what I've done before. While I regularly do roads like that at commute speed, doing it at racing speed was a shock. I haven't done Oakville yet, but Horsley and Oakville are probably the closest we'll get to open racing without leaving Sydney.

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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:45 pm

DaveOZ wrote:
foo on patrol wrote: Just keep increasing the intensity as you find things getting easier! :wink:


Greg LeMond once said climbing "never gets easier - you just go faster". I tend to agree with him.


GREAT quote, i'll remember that one.

Just wanted to say a big thank you to the OP, thanks to this thread i'm finally getting off my backside and doing at least an hour of hill repeats at Tinbeerwah tomorrow after work :-).
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby MDL » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:41 pm

foo on patrol wrote:Ride the hills as you have been and attack the last 50mtrs of it and keep going for 50mtrs over the top hard. Do this for a couple of weeks and then lift the speed on the way up while still giving it your all for the 50mtrs before and after. Just keep increasing the intensity as you find things getting easier! :wink:



This tip is right, attack over the crest and keep going. This will improve your climbing ten fold. This is mentioned on a number of sites.


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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby jheeno » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:35 pm

anyone ever start at the bottom of ourimbah and bike up the main fire trail to the top where theres a telecommunications tower at the start of the DH track ?

thats the hill I want to master ..
not crawl up using the lowest gear
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby Semar » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:06 pm

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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby trailgumby » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:50 pm

jheeno wrote:anyone ever start at the bottom of ourimbah and bike up the main fire trail to the top where theres a telecommunications tower at the start of the DH track ?

thats the hill I want to master ..
not crawl up using the lowest gear

No, but I know the hill. Haven't been there for awhile. You might like to try Quarry Track at Cascades. That would be good for a few hill repeats. :mrgreen:

Although it has gotten a little easier of late, there's a defined line formed so you don't have to battle loose stuff on top of the 20% plus average gradient
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby toolonglegs » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:37 am

I NEED to climb hills better to...and I have 24hours...in the next 8 days I will climb at least 8 HC climbs :lol: :lol: :lol: ....107kgs of climbing power and 24 hours notice to get ready...and I am getting paid for it :shock: :shock: :shock: .
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Re: I need to climb hills better

Postby goneriding » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:51 pm

toolonglegs wrote:I NEED to climb hills better to...and I have 24hours...in the next 8 days I will climb at least 8 HC climbs :lol: :lol: :lol: ....107kgs of climbing power and 24 hours notice to get ready...and I am getting paid for it :shock: :shock: :shock: .


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