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Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:59 pm
by vince
Does anyone have any drugless suggestions for someone who is so tired (no pun intended) of waking at about 330am almost everyday?
No matter what time i go to bed there it is 330.
No matter what room, what bed or lounge,
I have no problems getting to sleep at all head hits pillow, zzzzzz. I may doze very briefly between wake up and my required 530 wake up.
it's driving me nuts constantly being tired. any suggestions will be truly appreciated
thanks
Vince

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:06 pm
by ZepinAtor
It sounds like your past life as a rooster coming back to haunt you.

Seriously though I have exactly the same thing happen to me on a regular basis. I think the time on my clock is something like 3.20am usually.

I soon fall back to sleep only then to be woken by the intended alarm at 4.50am which feels like only 2 minutes later ??

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:11 pm
by ldrcycles
Have you tried those mask eye patch things? That's about all i can think of, other than using a few days off to sleep in and try to reset your rythm.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:15 pm
by Tornado
If you are waking up needing to go to the loo, I'd suggest skipping the last drink in the evening. The thing that normally wakes me up earlier than I would like, is this issue.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:21 am
by JessicaAlba
Sounds like one for Dr Karl :lol:

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:42 am
by jacks1071
vince wrote:Does anyone have any drugless suggestions for someone who is so tired (no pun intended) of waking at about 330am almost everyday?
No matter what time i go to bed there it is 330.
No matter what room, what bed or lounge,
I have no problems getting to sleep at all head hits pillow, zzzzzz. I may doze very briefly between wake up and my required 530 wake up.
it's driving me nuts constantly being tired. any suggestions will be truly appreciated
thanks
Vince


Have you tried doing a solid ride either before or after dinner to try and wear yourself out so you are tired enough to sleep at an earlier hour?

If that works for you - after a few days your sleep pattern may re-arrange itself.

Also stay off anything that has caffeine in it from like early afternoon onwards.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:49 am
by MarkG
Scotch does it for me

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:18 pm
by biftek
drugless solution is nutmeg and milk , works like a charm

drug version , over the counter called RESTAVIT ,

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:26 pm
by vince
thanks for the tips guys, i'll experiment and see how it goes. its more annoying than anything else and with the warmer weather coming on i should really use the extra awake time and start commuting a few days a week. watch me sleep in then!

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:32 pm
by Tim
I have exactly the same problem if I am feeling either depressed or anxious (or both).
Sometimes wake around 3.30 am with a tense start, or even a cold sweat if I am particularly worried about something.
Other times wake in a pit of morbid, black thoughts if going through a rough patch. Often after vivid, unpleasant dreams.
Either way I seldom get back to sleep and the rest of the day ain't fun.
Calm and happy, I sleep soundly. Cycling is just one of my strategies for peace and happiness.
On a different note, overtraining can play havoc with sleep patterns too.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:10 pm
by Ginantonicus
One of the key chemicals for sleep is Melatonin. Lots of sunlight during the day helps produce Melatonin and reset the body clock. Milk Also has Melatonin in it so drink lots of milk. You can also get melatonin tablets from the chemist. I'm not sure if you need a prescription. Another option is to get some aspirin with drowsiness as a side effect and take one before you go to bed. Restavit works too.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:59 pm
by grantw
A good herbal remedy for restless sleep whether through anxiety or just through an over active mind is a hop pillow. You just get yourselves some fresh hops, sew them into a little pillow, 20 x 20cm is heaps, and sleep with it under your normal pillow. The aroma has a mild sedative quality. You can buy ready made ones, but they are easy enough to make.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:25 pm
by jules21
most people go through episodes in their life which lead to symptoms of anxiety and/or depression. these will tend to effect your sleep. i have certainly experienced this.

i'm amazed at guys like Lance Armstrong, who can win 7 Tours in a row (let's discount the drugs for a moment) - some people are now saying he shows signs of being a sociopath, which may help explain his coolness under pressure. me, i would be waking up in a cold sweat, worrying about how i was going to handle the next day's stage.

a key factor in getting good sleep is to have peace of mind. if you're worried about losing your job or your marriage, these will impede that. there are techniques for dealing with stuff - like writing lists of things to do the next day, the evening before. this can help compartmentalise difficult issues that may otherwise keep you awake, worrying.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:29 pm
by gorilla monsoon
Sex is good to make you sleep. A good 45 minutes or so and away you go, into the Land of Nod. You wake up in a good frame of mind too.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:33 pm
by Parker
gorilla monsoon wrote:Sex is good to make you sleep. A good 45 minutes or so and away you go, into the Land of Nod. You wake up in a good frame of mind too.

And if you've got nobody to have sex with, then perhaps you could substitute with masterbation... I'm not taking the piss either. I'm being serious.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:34 pm
by jules21
Parker wrote:And if you've got nobody to have sex with, then perhaps you could substitute with masterbation... I'm not taking the piss either. I'm being serious.

WHAT SORCERY IS THIS?! :)

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:34 pm
by Parker
jules21 wrote:
Parker wrote:And if you've got nobody to have sex with, then perhaps you could substitute with masterbation... I'm not taking the piss either. I'm being serious.

WHAT SORCERY IS THIS?! :)

Hey, it helps me sleep when I can't get to sleep. Out like a light.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:51 pm
by Tim
Stop it !!!
You'll go blind. :lol:
Damn, I just sat on my glasses.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:27 pm
by AKO
Could be a symptom of sleep apnoea. It was very similar for me. I would wake 2 or 3 times a night to point Percy at the porcelain (when you suffer an aponea your brain wakes you up to breath and while your semi concious you think "what the hell, lets take a slash")as well as excessive daytime sleepiness. Might be worth checking it out.

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:17 pm
by KillerHeadWind
I wake up at 3am every morning and just jump on the trainer and have nanna naps later :)

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:19 pm
by foo on patrol
gorilla monsoon wrote:Sex is good to make you sleep. A good 45 minutes or so and away you go, into the Land of Nod. You wake up in a good frame of mind too.


Has never worked for me, just makes me more hyper. :? :lol:

Foo

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:39 pm
by toolonglegs
KillerHeadWind wrote:I wake up at 3am every morning and just jump on the trainer and have nanna naps later :)

OMGosh!!!... This is like seeing a ghost :-)

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:54 pm
by KillerHeadWind
toolonglegs wrote:
KillerHeadWind wrote:I wake up at 3am every morning and just jump on the trainer and have nanna naps later :)

OMGosh!!!... This is like seeing a ghost :-)


Yes I am here :D the only time I'm on here is when I'm sick :lol:

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:03 pm
by cyclotaur
Avoid tea & coffee in the evening and keep the room really dark - even cover the digital clock face if you have one. Go to bed at least 8 hours before you need to get up

If you do wake up, keep your eyes shut and don't move (except to get more comfortable) ..... take a few steady, deep breaths .... and ....relax .... you are getting sleepy..... :| .... z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z......

Re: Sleep.............or better yet, lack of

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:15 pm
by gorilla monsoon
KillerHeadWind wrote:I wake up at 3am every morning and just jump on the trainer and have nanna naps later :)


Sex or the trainer. You are still getting your leg over.