Lower Back Pain
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby foo on patrol » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:08 pm
I have 2 bulged disc and half an extra vertebrae on the base of my spine plus slight compression of the spine from being hit by a truck, when out training but everything is much more manageable now since seeing the sports pyshio bloke.
Stick it to your Drs and tell them to extrate their fingers from where it isn't supposed to be and give you the referrals for xray and mri scans.
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby toolonglegs » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:19 pm
Fingers crossed for you... I don't miss the Oz medical system one little bit!.
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby fionahills » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:00 pm
turning into a really cranky crabby b#####. taking way too many pain pills and despite them getting stronger and stronger no real improvement - have been off the bike for way too long..getting flabby legs and flabby brain.
did not think I was a sook but this is really dragging me down and lack of sleep and constant pain can lead to dark thoughts - at least now have something on the horizon that might help sort it out.
still cannot believe how quickly the bike becomes a big and such an enjoyable part of life - miss it terribly.
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Re: Lower Back Pain
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Re: Lower Back Pain
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Re: Lower Back Pain
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Re: Lower Back Pain
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Re: Lower Back Pain
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby fionahills » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:02 pm
The Very Very Good news is that no reason to stop riding my bike and every reason to jump back on as I will not do any more damage than the mix of old age and too many falls off horses has already done! As the major changes are arithtic keeping as active and mobile as possible is best possible course of action -
So back on the bike tomorrow morning - will take it slow and maybe small rides more often rather than trying to do 30 or 40 kms on the first day back.
already happier knowing that the only reason I cannot ride is cos I am too lazy.......
Thanks all for hints, advice and good wishes - I am just going to have to suck it up and get on with it.....yipeeeeee
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby toolonglegs » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:59 pm
Means it is more likely mechanically related which is not a big surprise with someone like you taking up cycling with such gutso .
Keep moving!... Look into your back pain not being the cause but rather being the symptom of other issues in your flexibility, core strength, bike position etc.
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby twizzle » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:27 pm
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby fionahills » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:05 pm
TLL - I think you are right that it is great news because it means the responsibility to manage it is now mine - I can't really do any harm to myself by exercising sensibly - and really weight loss and exercise is going to be the best medicine. Plus a great excuse to go and get a massage whenever...
Twizzle - not sure where I can get a better bike fit up here - I have had the physio look at me on the bike, and two extra checks at bike shop, one with physio present.The physio suggested an upright, old fashioned ladies bike - but I'd rather whinge a bit.....
I am going to try and get some more info from Steve Hogg's site - not sure I am good enought to understand all the ins and outs though but certainly cannot hurt.
I must admit that the bike does not hurt to ride at all when my back is good -its just when my back gets really sore, I cannot really do anything much at all without it hurting - nevertheless agree bike fit should be part of it - got to get the basics right...
anyway - no point whinging now - just got to get on with it and manage best I can, accept that some days might be sore but overtime if I build muscle etc, keep weight down and don't go silly I will be alright -
thanks all Fiona
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby toolonglegs » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:14 pm
Buy a foam roller as well... the agonizing pain you can put yourself in by rolling your body weight over your glutes, ITB, hammies etc is pure pleasure... or is that just me? .
Lots of things you can look into.
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby twizzle » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:33 pm
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Re: Lower Back Pain
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby Riggsbie » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:57 pm
And when you can't ride a 'normal' upright bike you can always ride a recumbent......
I had a microdisectomy on L4/5 and after 14 months on a recumbent I can ride an upright bike
Although recently had a relapse on the back, and major back "lock down" right now so lots of leg pain
Hang in there Fiona !
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby winstonw » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:30 pm
Nevertheless, that's what I do occasionally now. Every back is different, so don't think what applies to others automatically applies to you.
I suggest you ease off doing things that stir your back significantly, and focus on building core strength and flexibility; and lose weight by reducing Calorie intake rather than increasing energy expenditure.
Weight loss and a stronger more flexible core are must haves for less painful riding.
Then I'd suggest you have your road riding posture analysed....i.e. not on a stationery bicycle.
Keep in mind many people have asymptomatic disc bulges and osteoarthritis of the spine.
If you are prepared to travel to Brisbane, there's several physios I know who specialize in bike fit and dealing with middle aged morbidity.
Otherwise, good luck.
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby fionahills » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:17 pm
But don't have a foam roller - have used one at the gym so might grab one tomorrow - anything that helps - have a two hour sports massage voucher the kids got me so know I know I can't hurt anything will try them out.
winstonw - any ideas gratefully received and happy to travel to Brisbane if need be. Am 167cm tall and now at 64 kilos -trying to get the last 5 off is proving really hard through diet alone, so I think I have to try and do a little more than walking--since I have been off the bike I have been trying to walk as much as possible and swim but weight fairly stubborn stuck.
Looked at Hoggs website and unfortuneately no videa fits available at the moment but will drop him an email and see what he suggests.
will let you know how I go in the morning - so happy to get back on.....will just do a coffee run but it will be great!!!
thanks again Fiona
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby twizzle » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:56 pm
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby winstonw » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:15 pm
....then reduce Calorie intaketwizzle wrote:Re - reduce calorie intake... don't. Read "The smarter science of slim" first.
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby winstonw » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:29 pm
Fiona, I don't buy into weight being stubbornly stuck.fionahills wrote:and happy to travel to Brisbane if need be. Am 167cm tall and now at 64 kilos -trying to get the last 5 off is proving really hard through diet alone, so I think I have to try and do a little more than walking--since I have been off the bike I have been trying to walk as much as possible and swim but weight fairly stubborn stuck.
How do you determine whether you are generating a weekly Calorie deficit?
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby fionahills » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:06 am
I worked out on a internet based calculator (and I think it was the livestrong one.... ) that based on age, activity level, weight and height that if I eat about 1100 to 1200 calories per day I should lose around 1/2 kilo a week - this has been ok getting from 68-69 to 64-65 kilos but lately stuck at 64.5-65 kilos. I sometimes hit 63.7 but don't stay there for long!!!.
I eat a fairly boring, repetitive diet and use a food diary - only notable differences over last few weeks is eating more fruit and reduced range of protein - less meat and fish in last couple of weeks- more eggs in salad, stone fruits are great and its been quite warm so not hungry for 'proper' meal...
For ages I was around 60 kilos, but then bounced up to over 70 cos I was a greedy pig and we moved off the farm and had ready access to ice cream and indian food...yum - Then I started riding the bike and chucked (very slowly I must admit) coffee, cake, icecream and indian takeaways.Looked at a photo of me on the bike and went back to good basics and was careful what I ate and off the weight came til last month or so.
Obviously with no riding my level of activity is down now so maybe should cut back to 1000 per day to shift some more - or contemplating the two days per week fasting approach - I agree that it is essentially a balance between what goes in your mouth and what you use through activity- but I'm a woman and its my perogative to blame hormones, the weather, my husband, the kids or anyone else I can if I don't lose the weight quickly enough...
any hints welcomed - alternatively really good excuses also welcome
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Re: Lower Back Pain
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Re: Lower Back Pain
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Re: Lower Back Pain
Postby twizzle » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:53 am
Something to think about : A calorie of protein ends up with about 50% - 55% being available as fuel or fat storage, for a calorie of starch it's around 70%. So what value is there in calorie counting unless you do it by type?fionahills wrote:any hints welcomed - alternatively really good excuses also welcome
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