CKinnard wrote:Hey don't sweat the occasional jab at me Nobody.
It wasn't meant to be a jab. I said "You also may..." indicating the evidence points to the possibility. But only you know if you really have the problem.
CKinnard wrote:I enjoy the banter.You are perhaps the most level headed and well researched WFPB person I know, and very rational. So I enjoy discussing the subject with you.
I think many do. But last time I engaged in banter on these forums with WH1, we were pulled up by the mods.
CKinnard wrote:You are perhaps the most level headed and well researched WFPB person I know, and very rational. So I enjoy discussing the subject with you.
Thanks for the kind words.
You are many people's diet reference or expert on these forums. If I'm well researched, it's because I know if I'm not, that you'll correct me. Which is a benefit.
CKinnard wrote:As for my addictions, I did finally realize my physiology is too prone to getting 'addicted' to wine, as in I really enjoy it and eventually have daily cravings. However, if i stay away from it until the cravings ease, I don't have any trouble leaving it alone. i.e. didn't touch any in the last 2 US trips, and haven't touched it this year...zero cravings. zero temptation to visit a bottle shop or walk into one when passing.
As for animal bits, I went about 7 years without touching them when a vegetarian. and had a strong repulsion to it. I don't feel that repulsion now, but I certainly haven't craved meat this year. But if i went to a friend's house and they served up meat, I'd probably eat it. Going to the shops too I just don't have any inclination to look at meat. So something has changed.
Based on this, I cannot help but believe consciousness and emotions have a significant influence on our appetite. The thing I've done differently this year is I started with a 7 day water fast, and maybe I should attribute that with the extinguishing wrong cravings.
Last year I had an addiction to Madjool dates. It took some time but I don't even see if they stock them at the supermarket anymore.
I believe the more conscientious identify and work toward removing their addictions. While the less conscientious get stuck in the rut and blame external factors for their problems.
CKinnard wrote:More personally, I think the difference between me eating 100% wfpb and 95% is not going to make as significant an impact on my longevity as non diet choices and values will.
Having values are definitely a benefit. But values or principals can also lead one into making sacrifices for others which compromise one's physical and/or mental health for the benefit of others. Values may not all be positive in regard to health.
As for the 5% animal products:
From the Kim Williams video I posted earlier.
https://youtu.be/ZLtvkuUZUvE?t=31m26s
The HRs (95% CI) of all-cause mortality were 0.66 (0.59–0.75) when 3% of energy from plant protein was substituted for an equivalent amount of protein from processed red meat, 0.88 (0.84–0.92) from unprocessed red meat, 0.94 (0.90–0.99) from poultry, 0.94 (0.89–0.99) from fish, 0.81 (0.75–0.88) from eggs, and 0.92 (0.87–0.96) from dairy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5048552/
CKinnard wrote:I suppose a good question is "How would I bring up my children diet wise?"
I would have no trouble not feeding them dairy or eggs.
However I might feed them fish once a week.
Due to the link/association with auto-immune diseases, I'd prefer them to avoid all animal products. Fortunately for me, my youngest will be 18 in a month and they don't have any known auto-immune diseases yet. Not that I really have a say in what they eat.
I met a new guard at work who says he has a mild version of MS. So there doesn't appear to be any shortage of people with auto-immune diseases.
CKinnard wrote:regarding salt, that's another issue for me. If someone is a heavy sweater and does a lot of cardio, I am not convinced the recommended adequate intake applies. But if one is to take salt, I think it is better they take sodium AND potassium chloride.
When sweating a lot, is it better to take a complete sport drink type supplement? After all, one who sweats heavily will become deficient in many trace minerals. Won't they?