Retro MTB Tribe

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby simon.young » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:17 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:If it's got rear suspension it's not a retro IMO. Still a nice GT though.
How about the 91 Proflex? Rear sus, but rigid forks?! Almost seems backwards evolution now.

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby koen » Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:02 pm

The Proflex had a flex stem instead of suspension forks. I had one of these and they worked well compared to early forks in terms of taking out some of the hand/shoulder pain of hard rides but gave you no other advantages and felt a bit weird at first.

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby Slow6 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:02 am

I counted these full sussers as part of my retro stable. even the Klein and Mongoose from 98 are old school cool in my book.

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby ldrcycles » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:02 pm

Man that is one schmick lineup!

I finally got round to retrieving the old Apollo Everest i stashed at a friend's place during roadside rubbish collection, some seriously cool old bits on it. Full SunTour XC Sport group except for the Biopace cranks, including the high flange hubs which remind me of the undrilled Harden hubs. Even has the under BB mounted roller cam brake :) . It's in pretty good nick but will need a respray so i'm umming and ahhing over exactly how i go about it. Should get pics up in the next day or so.
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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby Slow6 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:56 pm

ldrcycles wrote:old Apollo Everest
Raised chainstay?

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby simon.young » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:22 pm

That AMP Research fork on the goose of awesome! Do they work well?

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby ldrcycles » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:31 pm

Slow6 wrote:
ldrcycles wrote:old Apollo Everest
Raised chainstay?
No even older than that!
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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby koshari » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:41 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:If it's got rear suspension it's not a retro IMO. Still a nice GT though.
What about the original "crossrider"?
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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby Slow6 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:16 pm

simon.young wrote:That AMP Research fork on the goose of awesome! Do they work well?
Yeh the forks were really good. The mongoose frame sucked though, that rear triangle was all over the place.
I used the fork for a while on a couple of hard tails and it was way better than a bomber or Judy of the same era.

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:44 pm

I don't think the Amp would have been better then my old Z2 atom bomb. 80mm of coiled sprung plushness.
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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby koshari » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:56 pm

slow6 love the colours of that specialised softtail, the anodised blue headset races really break up the red,

question to all, is changing cantis over to mini-Vs considered sacrilege on a retro MTB? as much as I have tried them I just dont like the feel of cantis, I have 4 bikes that were originally canti equipped and all now have V-brakes.
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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby bychosis » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:10 pm

Depends if you want a garage queen or a rider. I reckon keep the parts that don't work in a box and out on something that does work. Then if you need to make it original you can, but you can ride it in the meantime. Having said that I think my 96 trek y-11 is still retro, even though it's currently single speed and disc braked and a fair few of the original bits are no longer mine. It's only got an original seat, post and stem left. some wouldn't like it like that, but I do.
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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby jbchybridrider » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:37 pm

My brand new Sakae Litage project. I've got basically everything to assemble it accept the custom built wheels are still in shipment. I'm not building it totally retro but retro looking because I intend to ride it how it was men't to be ridden. :mrgreen:

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby Slow6 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:35 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:I don't think the Amp would have been better then my old Z2 atom bomb. 80mm of coiled sprung plushness.
I didn't expect them to be either but they were a blast.

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby find_bruce » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:03 am

Slow6 wrote:
singlespeedscott wrote:I don't think the Amp would have been better then my old Z2 atom bomb. 80mm of coiled sprung plushness.
I didn't expect them to be either but they were a blast.
Sorry singlespeedscott - 50mm of funky linkage beats 80mm of coil springs, in cool factor, not plushness :D

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby simon.young » Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:36 pm

jbchybridrider wrote:My brand new Sakae Litage project. I've got basically everything to assemble it accept the custom built wheels are still in shipment. I'm not building it totally retro but retro looking because I intend to ride it how it was men't to be ridden. :mrgreen:


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The cable routing is really nice on the Sakae. Never seen a Sakae MTB before. Got any pics of what you're build your aiming for?

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby akq » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:58 pm

Not sure if this is allowed but will post and see if I get shot,3 kerbside finds,not sure what the top bike is but would assume its a decent brand as was found in same pile

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby cycles gitane » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:01 pm

Some pictures of the Nishiki Alien 1990 I got last year.
The wheels were cactus, rims potato chipped- a shame as they were quality rims.
No shifters on the h/bars.

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I rebuilt the bike and rode it in the Melburn-Roobaix 2014.
I will post a picture of the rebuild (when I get around to to taking it).

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby Slow6 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:26 pm

Love that!

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby jbchybridrider » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:22 pm

simon.young wrote:
jbchybridrider wrote:My brand new Sakae Litage project.
The cable routing is really nice on the Sakae. Never seen a Sakae MTB before. Got any pics of what you're build your aiming for?
Well this ain't going to seem good without pic's. It's going to have Sram X9 but it's unpainted alloy and from a distance will hopefully reto enough. When I bought the frame I was dreaming of XC Pro but cost nearly made me keel over and it won't work as good as modern gear.

I got the frame without rear drops and will hopefully finish making them tomorrow unless I stuff up something. Wheels are here so it will be rolling.

These bits were part of the kit men't to be part of the frame. The bars are stainless steel, felt guilty unpacking them.
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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby silentbutdeadly » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:19 am

akq wrote:Not sure if this is allowed but will post and see if I get shot,3 kerbside finds,not sure what the top bike is but would assume its a decent brand as was found in same pile

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This makes me think of early 1980's Europa.

Of the other two, the Redline is the better one. All are worth revival if you are prepared to make an effort. But you've got about $50 there all up.
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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby ldrcycles » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:58 pm

Finally got some pics of the Everest, not too pretty at the moment but it should scrub up nicely. 1986 date codes.



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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby singlespeedscott » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:11 pm

I like it LDR. Just needs some TLC.
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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby koen » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:53 pm

Slow6 wrote:
simon.young wrote:That AMP Research fork on the goose of awesome! Do they work well?
Yeh the forks were really good. The mongoose frame sucked though, that rear triangle was all over the place.
Cool. A weird Mongoose.

I just rebuilt my '97 or 98 Mongoose FS for the umpteenth time. Its alloy and way different to that one.

My swingarm broke soon after I got it 2nd hand in about 1999 but I easily got a new beefier one. I never liked the feel of it for my XC riding until a few years back when I put a bigger Fox shock on it and it stood it up much straighter. Just recently because fools want discs I bought roooly cheaply 2nd hand Rockshox SID v brake forks and MAvic Crossmax V brake wheels. With new XT cranks it makes a very light 11kg XC bike for next to nothing. But there is a creak in pivots I just can't get rid of which is teeny bit annoying. I must take a pic one of these days

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Re: Retro MTB Tribe

Postby ldrcycles » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:57 pm

The dying days of good V braked stuff was great, i got a set of Crossmax SLs for only $200 and they were the most incredible wheels, it felt like i'd grown another pair of legs.

Unfortunately i never had quite the same luck with forks, most of my XC stuff was done on a set of Manitou Spyders with about 70mm of hopeless elastomer.
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