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Re: Trail Lights

Postby Jean » Mon May 27, 2013 1:32 pm

trailgumby wrote:This is what I used to get the beam shots for the MTS 2700 review:
Canon EOS 600D, set at F9 and ISO400 with a 21mm focal length for 15 seconds.

Would be handy if you could replicate a shot at those settings (camera excepted - not expecting you to go buy an EOS 600D just to satify my curiosity! :lol:)

If they get any brighter I'm thinking I might have to drop the exposure time to 10 seconds.

Camera was positioned directly above the saddle - tripod doubled as bike stand for the shots.


I'll replicate your settings (with a Pentax), but I only have a 90mm lens at the moment (the original kit jobbie packed it in) so it won't be exactly the same.

I'll also shoot to the 'MTBR standard' that I came across while researching lights:

"Full manual, ISO-100, Exposure-6 seconds, Aperture-F4.0, Focus-Manual, White Balance-Daylight".
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby Bentnose » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:39 pm

I've bit the bullet and ordered the Xeccon S12 TWO - Cree XM-L2 Hi-Performance Spot Light and Xeccon Spiker 1210 MTB Floodlight - 4400mAh Premium, from MTB Revolution. Most likely will have them by late next week as there is a wait for the newer version of the 1210, looking forward to being able to see at night, I have some big Friday night rides planned.
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby clydesmcdale » Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:56 am

Have a read through this Rotorburn thread on cheap LED lights.
http://www.rotorburn.com/forums/showthread.php?260166-Cheap-LED-Lights
I have 2 of the 1800L single Cree XML lights mounted on the bars. They are a little too much of a spot light, but you can disperse with a spreader lens cover for a wider beam. Have done 1 night trail ride with them on, and they were fine but the peripherals were a little lacking.

I'll probably mount 1 or both on the helmet and grab a couple of the 5400L versions discussed in the thread for bar mounting if I decide to do more night single tracks. Should be like a portable sun.
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby yellagonga » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:28 pm

I put a 4wd LED light bar on mine, with domestic downlight globes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvMKfo0q1V4

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Re: Trail Lights

Postby commando » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:37 pm

Well, since I started this thread a while back, I've picked up a set of lights and ridden with them.
First, keep in mind I'm just trail riding for fun and fitness, not doing any enduros or travelling long distances away from home. Based on this, I decided not spend too much money so bought 2 of these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281000705313 ... 1497.l2649
One mounted on the bars, the other on my helmet. For the bar mounted light I purchased a wide angle lens from www.action-led-lights.com , along with some new bezel seals and rubber rings for mounting, just in case the Chinese items weren't up to task.

Total cost for lights and accessories, $65.

I only get out for about 1.5 hours in the dark and have yet to see either light run out of battery on high beam. The spread with the wide lens is excellent, giving enough light through corners, and I barely notice the extra weight on the helmet.
The past few weeks I've been caught in rain a couple times and the lights kept going. Getting home I remove the lenses and have found no signs of moisture.

As a casual trail rider, I reckon these lights are a good way to go, especially for the price.

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions!
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby jandb » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:32 pm

commando wrote:Total cost for lights and accessories, $65.

Hi, I'm interested in copying your approach on bike lights. You mentioned total cost of $65 - 2 x lights at $25 = 50 but the the shipping cost to Aust is $30. So total cost I'm getting is $80 before adding in the wide angle lens. Did I get that right?

Also which wide angle lens did you select from Action Led? There's a couple on that site

thanks for your help
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby commando » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:39 pm

Hi Jandb,

Strange, when I bought them, shipping was free. I bought them separately too, because I wanted to test one out before I invested $50 on two. I think the key is to search for a Cree XML T6, there's heaps of different packages out there, I eventually just had to decide on one and took the one with free freight. You'll find something easily.
This is the lens I got http://www.action-led-lights.com/collec ... angle-lens
I also grabbed a couple bezel orings and mounting oring kits to add a bit of reliability to the package. I should've got the helmet mount kit as well http://www.action-led-lights.com/collec ... -mount-kit I used cable ties to fit mine, while effective, it's not exactly quick release.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby apsilon » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:15 pm

yellagonga wrote:I put a 4wd LED light bar on mine, with domestic downlight globes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvMKfo0q1V4


What sort of battery are you using with all those lights and what run time do you get?
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby mitzikatzi » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:17 pm

Xplora wrote: Do not get cheap SPDs, your body will hurt you.

trailgumby wrote:29ers are awesome.
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby find_bruce » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:00 pm


The light for the gullible ? :)


The fine print - 1800 lumens only theoretically possible if you buy 2 - features show - "strong brightness(900 lumens,2800mA)" battery "6400mAh", pack is 2s2p, so would need 3200 mAh cells - which sell for around $15 a pair - possible but that's not the way to bet
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby Sven Nijs » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:39 pm

1800 Chinese Lumens but plenty light for the price (just don't take those batteries out in the rain).
Similar to pricing elsewhere so...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CREE-XM-L-XM ... 51ac6e3a24
It's a bit warmer here than Scotland isn't it!
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby jandb » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:20 pm

commando wrote:Hope that helps.


It most certainly does! Ordered mine 8 Sep, arrived this week. Light seems to be quite bright and of similar output & battery duration to my friends Nitelight Shotfire which is rated at 1100 lumens & costs about $200 delivered. Of course tough to compare actual output & longevity is doubtful but at 1/5 the cost it's a great option. Thanks for the tip.
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby franco cozzo » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:27 pm

just a warning to anyone buying these off ebay...a lot of dodgy china based sellers on there atm and will only increase in the lead up to xmas
you pay for your order they send you some socks instead (or similar) and then try to convince you its a mistake and allow them to resend...this whole process will usually take you close to or over the 45 day threshold for a paypal claim, the seller will go silent on you and youll end up getting screwed

heres a bunch of ebay china sellers i definitely wouldnt be buying CREE XM-L T6 LED lights from:
http://myworld.ebay.com.au/zhyq8015
http://myworld.ebay.com.au/ranglifang54
http://myworld.ebay.com.au/hole.best
http://myworld.ebay.com.au/chenxiuqin250

...but theres also quite a few other sellers doing exactly the same thing...so buyer beware: i got stung on 2x sets of lights just recently
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby jandb » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:40 pm

[quote="franco cozzo"
heres a bunch of ebay china sellers i definitely wouldnt be buying CREE XM-L T6 LED lights from
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Good tip. I guess look for buyers with a significant #of sales. 1,000 & 98% rating would be my threshold.
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby franco cozzo » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:23 am

jandb wrote:Good tip. I guess look for buyers with a significant #of sales. 1,000 & 98% rating would be my threshold.


...there were so many on there i assumed they were legit. but yes from now on i'll only go with high volume sellers with exceptional feedback only (if at all)

can you recommend any ebay sellers that are 100% legit that you have purchased from?

dealextreme also stocks these lights so there are alternatives
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby jandb » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:29 pm

I bought from this guy, delivered in about 2-3 weeks, works ok so far.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-1800Lm-C ... 53ff66f0b9

I also bought a MagicShine MJ-872 from DealsXtreme - have been waiting almost a month for that delivery. Apparently any day now.
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby vortex1018 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:33 pm

If you don't mind buying online from overseas, I would recommend lights from Hong Kong, Japan or taiwan.
Not China though, you might have some quality issues with yer lights :roll:
I'm running an older Dosun A250 ( only 250 lumens), which cost me $60 including shipping. :D
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby casual_cyclist » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:14 pm

yellagonga wrote:I put a 4wd LED light bar on mine, with domestic downlight globes

That is epic! I love it. Hey, where is that? Looks like the Perth hills.

I second the previous question. What kind of batteries?
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby superkermit » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:50 am

FASTTECH.COM

Some huge threads on this also at MTBR.
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby bychosis » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:33 am

I knocked up some lights from a couple of cheap torches ($5 ea) and a battery pack. Then I bought some lights like the fandyfire set, but called solar storm with a claimed 5000lm. I know they aren't 5000lm though. I've been happy with the solar storm lights, but they overpower my home made lights on the helmet. Riding in the dark with them on blinky mode is a recipe for seizures given the light output, and especially bad with reflective signs in front of you. I mostly ride with them on medium beam when on single track and only switch to high for fire trails. Using that setup I have managed to get plenty of Strava achievements on the local trails so they can't be all bad.

To keep things consistent (good options for spares then) I purchased a second set of solarstorm lights off eBay for the huge price of $31 and awaiting delivery. Surely for that price I can't go wrong! They don't come with a helmet mount, but shouldn't be hard to figure something out.

Edit: I find I get a fair bit of glare off them when leaning forward over the bars, considering putting an eyebrow on the unit to help.
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Re: Trail Lights

Postby jandb » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:01 pm

jandb wrote:I bought from this guy, delivered in about 2-3 weeks, works ok so far.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-1800Lm-C ... 53ff66f0b9



No longer. Battery has failed after about 4 - 5 rides.
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