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Titanium hardtails

Postby damonik » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:44 am

I keep getting told that I can't ride a Carbon hardtail with panniers, I don't like Alu bikes, so that leaves me with a steel or Ti hardtail. I'm only interested in mtb touring, I don't really have any desire to get into proper mtb, if I did I'd just buy a Specialized Epic and be happy with that :)

Chasing any opinions on locally available Ti or Steel frames - I'd love to find a Kona Raijin, but I'm yet to find anyone locally who stocks the frame.

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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby queequeg » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:49 am

damonik wrote:I keep getting told that I can't ride a Carbon hardtail with panniers, I don't like Alu bikes, so that leaves me with a steel or Ti hardtail. I'm only interested in mtb touring, I don't really have any desire to get into proper mtb, if I did I'd just buy a Specialized Epic and be happy with that :)

Chasing any opinions on locally available Ti or Steel frames - I'd love to find a Kona Raijin, but I'm yet to find anyone locally who stocks the frame.

Damo


http://www.lynskeyperformance.com

They make the Kona Raijin, and they have just launched their new "Silver Series" of Ti frames/bikes at some very nice price points.
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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby TailWind » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:54 am

There's the Van Nicholas Xion - no experience with it, but would love to have one...
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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby damonik » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:03 am

queequeg wrote:
http://www.lynskeyperformance.com

They make the Kona Raijin, and they have just launched their new "Silver Series" of Ti frames/bikes at some very nice price points.


They are sexy!
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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby damonik » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:08 am

TailWind wrote:There's the Van Nicholas Xion - no experience with it, but would love to have one...


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Yes please! Thanks for that link :)
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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby TailWind » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:32 am

damonik wrote:
TailWind wrote:There's the Van Nicholas Xion - no experience with it, but would love to have one...


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Yes please! Thanks for that link :)


The guy to speak to there is Gabriel - met him at the Melbourne Bike Expo last year where he had some Van Nicholas and Schindelhauer bikes on display. Helpful - well worth taking some time to chat with him.
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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby Jean » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:13 pm

Not exactly local, but easy to buy and bring in are the On-One Inbred steel frames, for either 26" or 29" wheel sizes. They have mounts for panniers and if the online photos are any guide are frequently used for MTB touring. I have a 29er Inbred and it's a great bike, though mine is set up for XC, not touring. Much cheaper than the Ti offerings, particularly if you keep an eye out for one of their sales.
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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby WestcoastPete » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:35 pm

Jean wrote:Not exactly local, but easy to buy and bring in are the On-One Inbred steel frames, for either 26" or 29" wheel sizes. They have mounts for panniers and if the online photos are any guide are frequently used for MTB touring. I have a 29er Inbred and it's a great bike, though mine is set up for XC, not touring. Much cheaper than the Ti offerings, particularly if you keep an eye out for one of their sales.


This was my first thought too...

I have a 26" Inbred, currently setup for MTB, but bought for touring. The one with the dropouts that you can swap has the disk brake tab inside the rear triangle, which makes mounting a rack A LOT easier. The older versions were all like this. The new ones seem to have the tab on the outside of the frame, like pretty much all other MTB frames around.

They're well made frames, and cheap!
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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby Jean » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:53 pm

Yes, I have the 'swap-out frame', and the rear brake calipers are indeed placed inside the rear triangle.
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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby silentbutdeadly » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:04 pm

Singular Gryphon from Larry's Custom Cycles in Melbourne. Comes with rack mounts...

If you can handle the drop bar geometry in a 29er then you are good to go.

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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby cobba » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:42 pm

silentbutdeadly wrote:Singular Gryphon from Larry's Custom Cycles in Melbourne. Comes with rack mounts...
If you can handle the drop bar geometry in a 29er then you are good to go.
Frameset is $800 from memory


Where's the rack mounts on that frame.

http://www.singularcycles.com/shop/index.php/frames/singular-gryphon.html

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A bit over $600 will get the same frame from wiggle.
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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby silentbutdeadly » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:39 am

I would assume the points on the back of the seat stays to be the rack mounts.

As for Wiggle selling Singular's...that's new. They are charging the same as Singular does in the UK...and the same as Larry's does here (actually Larry's frameset price is $700). Except when you take VAT out of the Wiggle price that's where the price difference is. Hard to see Larry's being able to compete with that since that'd be his margin and transport costs. The final price difference (delivered) though is just $80. I think I'd shop locally on this one...
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Re: Titanium hardtails

Postby DavidL » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:45 am

damonik wrote:I keep getting told that I can't ride a Carbon hardtail with panniers,


Why not? There are always options!

- If you have to have panniers, then get a seat post mounted rack
- Have you looked at frame bags and seat bags (here is some examples but there are many options: http://www.revelatedesigns.com/ )
- If you have heaps of gear maybe a trailer might be an option BOB Ibex

If you want a Ti frame then that is different, but carbon has benefits for loaded travel.

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