Need help from this list of bikes...
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Postby BEARWOOD » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:26 pm
I'd prefer the bike to have what I'd call a less aggressive riding position but I'm not sure what measurements make it 1 way or the other, I like to sit more upright. Because I don't know about componetry or what will make 1 better than the other I need plenty of help. Any comments appreciated.
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Postby Mugglechops » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:12 pm
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Postby Calvin27 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:21 pm
Cushy dirt bike
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Postby BEARWOOD » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:34 pm
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Re: Need help from this list of bikes...
Postby trailgumby » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:35 am
If suspension performance is a particular focus I'd look closely at the GT Sensor. The downside for me is the inability to fit a bottle cage inside the front triangle (a show stopper in fact) but that's not a problem for everyone.
The reason they're cheap is that people have stopped buying them and 26ers as a class of bike are on runout except perhaps for full on DH.
Why not 29ers?
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Postby trailgumby » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:39 am
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Postby silentbutdeadly » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:24 am
The thing is though...I think you are doing it wrong. None of these bikes will properly cater for an upright position without compromising handling which means you may not enjoy the ride out of any of them. It might also help to tell us where you are so we can try and understand the terrain you might be riding in.
At this point...I wouldn't buy any of them.
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Postby BEARWOOD » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:07 am
I was hoping people may suggest which bike would be better at certain things and why one would be better than another at other things.
Supension isn't all im worried about, i would rather the best overall bike as i would never use the suspension to its fullest capabilities anyway.
27.5" are just to expensive and i doubt 29" would suit where i want to ride and i'm not really sold on a wheel so big.
I live in Dubbo and theres hardly anywhere to ride and the only place i iknow is very tight and twisty with not much flowing downhill at all.
With riding position, i sat on a few treks and giants and just didnt like how they stretched me out and had me leaning so far forward thats why i wanted to know what things will makw one bike more upright over another.
i understand 26" are on there way out but they have done the job for a long time now and they will not stop doing it overnight just because theres a "new fad" at the moment. Dont get me wrong i would prefer a 27.5" but it would have to he a hardtail to fit my budget...
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Postby Mugglechops » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:23 pm
I have a 6in travel Giant Reign with a 70mm stem that is fairly upright and very comfy to ride.
I have used it for everything from short rides around town to 130km epics. It's not as fast as the bikes you listed but it gets there in the end.
If you look second hand you should find one well with in budget.
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Postby mitzikatzi » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:15 pm
I can rank those bikes on paper. Then I would test ride them. It doesn't really matter what I would buy. You are the person who will ride the bike.BEARWOOD wrote:More confused...
I was hoping people may suggest which bike would be better at certain things and why one would be better than another at other things.
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Generally more beginner/recreational/entry level bike have an upright riding position.BEARWOOD wrote:,,snip,,
With riding position, i sat on a few treks and giants and just didnt like how they stretched me out and had me leaning so far forward thats why i wanted to know what things will makw one bike more upright over another.
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There are some incredible deals on high end second hand 26 inch bikes at the moment.
I would look at the Trek. Those bikes are designed for slightly different terrains and riding styles Some tend to XC others to Trail/Mild AM
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Postby trailgumby » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:16 am
The industry is going through a rapid major structural change to the product offering and 26ers will be either dead or a niche for certain disciplines only. I think its a mistake to think bigger wheel sizes aren't a permanent majority fixture in the market.
Its kind of funny how your perception changes. When I got my first 29er to review for BNA it seemed like I had a horse in the garage. It was HUGE. My son even dubbed it The Horse.
But then after a few weeks of riding it the 26ers looked tiny. What are these BMXs doing in my garage?!
Now that I own one myself I look at 26ers (including the four i still own) and think they look 'wrong' - too small! Thats after 7 years almost exclusively on 26 inch wheeled bikes.
So I think your view about 29ers being too big can change.
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Postby silentbutdeadly » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:09 am
[Response by paragraph]BEARWOOD wrote:More confused...
I was hoping people may suggest which bike would be better at certain things and why one would be better than another at other things.
Supension isn't all im worried about, i would rather the best overall bike as i would never use the suspension to its fullest capabilities anyway.
27.5" are just to expensive and i doubt 29" would suit where i want to ride and i'm not really sold on a wheel so big.
I live in Dubbo and theres hardly anywhere to ride and the only place i iknow is very tight and twisty with not much flowing downhill at all.
With riding position, i sat on a few treks and giants and just didnt like how they stretched me out and had me leaning so far forward thats why i wanted to know what things will makw one bike more upright over another.
i understand 26" are on there way out but they have done the job for a long time now and they will not stop doing it overnight just because theres a "new fad" at the moment. Dont get me wrong i would prefer a 27.5" but it would have to he a hardtail to fit my budget...
Not surprised....
It's not that simple or easy...
Dubbo has some very many interesting places to ride within an hour of town...you are not being imaginative enough. There is a local off shoot of these guys http://cworbc.org.au/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (the Dubbo end has a Facebook page apparently) and there's at least three semi-formal ride areas closer to town...and then there's Goobang...and Coonabarabran and...as for the tight and twisty - I ride a long 29er on our own tight, twisty and flat track with some success and so do many of my club mates.
If you are too upright you will corner like a gate...not good on a tight, twisty course.
There's still nothing wrong with a 26er given the bang for buck available but don't be put off by a hardtail either...
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Postby BEARWOOD » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:28 pm
Thanks everyone for the help and feel free to suggest some hard tails to check out...
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Postby silentbutdeadly » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:40 am
Giant Talon 27.5 1 or 2BEARWOOD wrote:Thanks everyone for the help and feel free to suggest some hard tails to check out...
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Postby BEARWOOD » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:10 pm
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Postby silentbutdeadly » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:55 am
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Postby trailgumby » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:40 pm
I think the fork will be fine for your intended use, even if it is a little heavy it will at least be reliable. It will be something you can upgrade later if you wish, without overcapitalising.
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Postby BEARWOOD » Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:08 pm
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Postby holmesy » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:47 pm
I am looking for an entry level dual suspension - I'm not fussed (I think) about 26 or 29, especially given:
Is the list above still relevant a few months later to now?mitzikatzi wrote: There are some incredible deals on high end second hand 26 inch bikes at the moment.
I have been looking at discounted new 26" dual suspension bike exchange , and second hand - but there isn't a great wealth of examples in a "beginner" price range that are XL (sub $1,000) and I'm struggling to find anything second hand (been offered one which has had a crack fixed and braced, but I'm too scared!)
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Postby silentbutdeadly » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:36 pm
But if it is new, XL in size and less than a grand then I'd shout "BSO" and run away...
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Postby holmesy » Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:17 pm
even second hand is a struggle (which I am happy to get) - not many dual l/xl or xl out there under a grand!Duck! wrote: so you're going to be limited to second-hand.
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