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650B is old hat

Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:47 pm

Well I have just seen a Diamondback "Peak" 650B mtb in the latest Big W catalog. $248 gets you what was next to impossible to buy of the shelf 3 years ago.
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby ldrcycles » Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:15 pm

The reaction time is getting quicker, it took them ages to bring out a "fixie" and then 29ers. Some super spindly forks on that thing.

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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby silentbutdeadly » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:20 am

$248 gets you a 650BSO. Not a 650B.
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby trailgumby » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:15 pm

Specifucations:
Suspension: Yes

:shock:

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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:41 pm

trailgumby wrote:Specifucations:
Suspension: Yes

:shock:

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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby Rob74 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:37 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:Well I have just seen a Diamondback "Peak" 650B mtb in the latest Big W catalog. $248 gets you what was next to impossible to buy of the shelf 3 years ago.

Box says 19.5kg
So weighed it with park tools scales....
* 16.64kg un-assembled out of box, same plastic crappy RD FD etc as the Torrent
=>> I'd say avoid

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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby singlespeedscott » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:37 pm

Rob74 wrote:
singlespeedscott wrote:Well I have just seen a Diamondback "Peak" 650B mtb in the latest Big W catalog. $248 gets you what was next to impossible to buy of the shelf 3 years ago.

Box says 19.5kg
So weighed it with park tools scales....
* 16.64kg un-assembled out of box, same plastic crappy RD FD etc as the Torrent
=>> I'd say avoid

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You bought one? :shock:

Id love to here how it runs after hitting some single track. :lol:
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby Mulger bill » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:19 pm

FIrst thing you'll notice is the fork is raked out by minimum 30mm...
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby mitzikatzi » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:58 pm

It's an 18 speed too.

2x9 or 3x6 or maybe the new SRAM 1x18?

No one has written a review yet? No creative writers here?
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby Duck! » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:29 pm

Rob74 wrote:
singlespeedscott wrote:Well I have just seen a Diamondback "Peak" 650B mtb in the latest Big W catalog. $248 gets you what was next to impossible to buy of the shelf 3 years ago.

Box says 19.5kg
So weighed it with park tools scales....
* 16.64kg un-assembled out of box, same plastic crappy RD FD etc as the Torrent
=>> I'd say avoid

I'd have thought that its mere presence in a Big W cattledog wold be enough to suggest avoidance.

mitzikatzi wrote:It's an 18 speed too.

2x9 or 3x6 or maybe the new SRAM 1x18?
It'll be 3x6 - Big W are still coming to grips with these new-fangled 7-speed freewheels for their high-end models.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby trailgumby » Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:43 pm

I spent an hour yesterday wrenching on my neighbour's newly purchased Big W bought Dunlop bike. It was a Christmas gift for their 12yo daughter. There were a few assembly mistakes that I corrected but I was mist concerned with getting brakes sorted to suit the girls small hands.

The wheels were probably a good 2mm out of true which made brake setup challenging but what do you expect for a 98 dollar bike? Gears were 1x6.

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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby clackers » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:56 pm

I don't begrudge manufacturers catering to buyers who may never ride the bike again after six weeks. Best for all concerned to keep the costs down. But if you think you might truly love the hobby ...

Just starting I nearly bought an Aldi dually, but saw the frame suspension was just a big spring. I guessed that without damping if you took a big hit from a rock at an angle you'd essentially be catapulted from the seat!
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby FuzzyDropbear » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:16 am

clackers wrote:I don't begrudge manufacturers catering to buyers who may never ride the bike again after six weeks. Best for all concerned to keep the costs down. But if you think you might truly love the hobby ...

Just starting I nearly bought an Aldi dually, but saw the frame suspension was just a big spring. I guessed that without damping if you took a big hit from a rock at an angle you'd essentially be catapulted from the seat!


My mate had one of those cheap dually things with a massive spring. He ended up with a massive crack through the largest chainring, not from banging it while log hopping, but just from riding around. In the end we tightened that rear spring up as much as we could in the hope that it would make it into a hardtail.. Then he went and bought a proper bike and has loved it ever since..
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby trailgumby » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:40 am

clackers wrote:Just starting I nearly bought an Aldi dually, but saw the frame suspension was just a big spring. I guessed that without damping if you took a big hit from a rock at an angle you'd essentially be catapulted from the seat!

No need to guess. That is exactly what happens. :x
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby ldrcycles » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:40 pm

Not really, they're so heavy you can never get up enough speed for that to be a problem :lol: .

My first bike was a dual suspension Repco, the chain snapped after 12kms and within a year the front and rear suspension had locked up, rear hub had completely collapsed, RD ate itself etc. It ended it's life as a single speed farm bike, I think all up I would have got a maximum of a couple of hundred kms out of it.
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby Rob74 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:47 pm

singlespeedscott » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:37 pm
You bought one?
Id love to here how it runs after hitting some single track.

=>> Frig NO!

Duck! » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:29 pm
I'd have thought that its mere presence in a Big W cattledog wold be enough to suggest avoidance.

=>> Agreed! Avoid its a UCHOS

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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby dmwill » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:25 pm

trailgumby wrote:I spent an hour yesterday wrenching on my neighbour's newly purchased Big W bought Dunlop bike. It was a Christmas gift for their 12yo daughter. There were a few assembly mistakes that I corrected but I was mist concerned


When I was studying, I had a casual job at Kmart. So many people would return bikes because something fell off, etc. Most common fault was the left pedal falling out (after they failed to realise it was reverse threaded and proceeded to screw/smash it in. Of course, they all failed to read the manual or the warning attached to the pedal but still got their refund after demanding to see a manager.

Bikes were boxed with the forks back the front too - so many people would just assemble them that way - once again to return them days later after realising they cannot steer the bike.

I got so tired of being called to the service desk to deal with clowns wanting refunds that I decided to just be honest with anyone wanting to buy a bike or pay the extra $30 for the "Authorised Huffy guy" (I'm not kidding) to assemble it for them (at least I knew it would be at least 6 months before it would be returned).
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby bychosis » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:52 pm

But if 650b is old hat then what is next? I've still got a 26er, haven't even got to 29er yet.
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby ldrcycles » Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:13 pm

Well fatbikes were next, but I think they'll get past the point of "hipness" before long and then it'll be something else. My money is on 36ers to be the next big thing.
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby Mugglechops » Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:48 pm

ldrcycles wrote:Well fatbikes were next, but I think they'll get past the point of "hipness" before long and then it'll be something else. My money is on 36ers to be the next big thing.


I have jumped on nearly every bandwagon so far but I think I will be giving 27.5 a miss.
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby munga » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:40 pm

remember when diamondback used to be cool?

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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby singlespeedscott » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:14 pm

munga wrote:remember when diamondback used to be cool?

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Only the rich kids could afford one of them.
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby lobstermash » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:21 pm

bychosis wrote:But if 650b is old hat then what is next? I've still got a 26er, haven't even got to 29er yet.


Two wheel drive... Watch this space...
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:44 pm

Is that yet another thing I have to go on a retro grump crusade about? :lol:
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Re: 650B is old hat

Postby rowdyflat » Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:11 pm

2 wheel drive was done about 10 yrs ago.
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