650b wheels, get on it.
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650b wheels, get on it.
Postby skull » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:47 pm
Excited.
My current ride is a 26 Cannondale Scalpel, after doing a bit of reading I found out that 650bs fit. So I bit the bullet and got a set made up. Stans Crests with a lefty hub at the front and DT Swiss 240 rear. Tyre choice is Pacenti quasi-moto 2.0, I'll see how they go and I have also had a look at RRs if I don't like the pacentis.
Next upgrade will be in about 12 months time and I am going to change the driveline to X01.
Then hopefully around the same time some cheap 26 carbon leftys come online. Once I have that it will be a bike custom paint and one fully spec'd mean light weight xc machine. I might even up the wheels to a lighter set then. Depending on the wheel weight limits (currently sitting at 85kg).
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby trailgumby » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:48 pm
Cannondale Rush is another great candidate for 650B conversion. Saw one recently going past on a trail maintenance day at Manly Dam, done by the crew I bought my Scalpel from. I pulled the rider up (not literally ) and got chatting. It looked great!
Stan's hoops are excellent. Very happy with the ones on my Scalpel 29er. To go one better you'd need to go carbon rims I reckon.
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby Mugglechops » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:29 pm
Some have been on them for a few years now.
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby skull » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:28 am
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:12 am
How do they compare to 29ers?Mugglechops wrote:I know a few guys who have gone 650b and love it.
Some have been on them for a few years now.
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby trailgumby » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:02 pm
There was a slight geometry difference on the 650b that made it more playful on deacents, but a good comparison nonethelesss.
26er was the most agile but also the most nervous descending and didn't roll over stuff as well as the other two.
All exactly as you'd expect
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby mitzikatzi » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:26 pm
from hereWhat really were the strengths of the third dimension? Nothing conclusive was deduced so Santa Cruz welded up a new mule with geometry and a fork suited to 650b wheels. They then test rode the 26” and 650b side by side. There was still no clear winner,
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby Duck! » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:55 pm
Another way to summarise the findings (I read the same article when it was published a while ago) is that the 27.5 isn't the best at anything, but on balance it's the best for everything.trailgumby wrote:Not as quick. More nimble. That's the word according to Enduro magazine who did a back to back test of all 3 wheel sizes on the same model steel hardtail from Jamis.
There was a slight geometry difference on the 650b that made it more playful on deacents, but a good comparison nonethelesss.
26er was the most agile but also the most nervous descending and didn't roll over stuff as well as the other two.
All exactly as you'd expect
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby ldrcycles » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:57 am
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby singlespeedscott » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:29 am
Trueldrcycles wrote:650B is the best for convincing people they need to buy a new bike .
I to read this same article awhile back. I was just wondering whether any on here may have had ridden both sizes themselves.Duck! wrote:Another way to summarise the findings (I read the same article when it was published a while ago) is that the 27.5 isn't the best at anything, but on balance it's the best for everything.
By the way lets start a revolution and not become victims of American marketing, like we did with 29er's, and call it 650B. Its been called this since the 1930's so lets keep it this way
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby Duck! » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:38 am
Why? It bears absolutely no relationship to the actual wheel diameter, with or without tyre.singlespeedscott wrote: By the way lets start a revolution and not become victims of American marketing, like we did with 29er's, and call it 650B. Its been called this since the 1930's so lets keep it this way
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:26 pm
Isn't there some formula involved in creating the number?, pretty sure no bike wheels are actually the stated size.Duck! wrote:Why? It bears absolutely no relationship to the actual wheel diameter, with or without tyre.singlespeedscott wrote: By the way lets start a revolution and not become victims of American marketing, like we did with 29er's, and call it 650B. Its been called this since the 1930's so lets keep it this way
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby trainedmonkey » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:36 pm
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby singlespeedscott » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:06 pm
Neither does 27.5", but at least the rim size is 650B regardless of what size tyre you choice to use, be it a 32mm or a 2.7"Duck! wrote:Why? It bears absolutely no relationship to the actual wheel diameter, with or without tyre.singlespeedscott wrote: By the way lets start a revolution and not become victims of American marketing, like we did with 29er's, and call it 650B. Its been called this since the 1930's so lets keep it this way
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby Blakeylonger » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:56 pm
If you want to be pedantic, then just use BSD instead. 559/584/622.
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby singlespeedscott » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:40 pm
True. I just don't like American marketing and consumerism.Blakeylonger wrote:Originally the number was the approximate outer diameter of the tyre, the letter denoted tyre height/width.
If you want to be pedantic, then just use BSD instead. 559/584/622.
Strange thing is the letter designation is referring to width. A is narrow, B is medium width and C is wide. Go figure.
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby ldrcycles » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:51 pm
+1.singlespeedscott wrote:
By the way lets start a revolution and not become victims of American marketing, like we did with 29er's, and call it 650B. Its been called this since the 1930's so lets keep it this way
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Re: 650b wheels, get on it.
Postby skull » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:49 pm
Guess who has a 650b Cannondale scalpel.
The wheels arrived on Friday. I quickly set them up on the bike to have a look. Unfortunately then had to leave for work and don't get home until Sunday night.
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