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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby Eleri » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:57 pm

and at the risk of being a nerd

Because the 650 is smaller, one revolution of the wheel is a shorter distance than a 700, that's why the gearing is lower. As it happens I have a compact though. Being old and all :)
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby feral grasshopper » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:13 pm

Eleri wrote:and at the risk of being a nerd

Because the 650 is smaller, one revolution of the wheel is a shorter distance than a 700, that's why the gearing is lower. As it happens I have a compact though. Being old and all :)


oh bring on the nerds please, keeps things interesting! some hills i need all the help i can get, compact, 650 wheels and 11/32 cassette, :twisted: doesn't get much better than that! and i'm older, so there :!:
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby Apple » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:20 pm

You are both nuts. I bet you are not old, I actually think I saw you Eleri, ( you didn't look old to me) in CT riding with DHCC. I often ride there on Saturday mornings.
There is no way in the world I would swap my 53/39 gear at the front and 11-27 at the back on the 650c wheels. I would lose a lot of my speed, I find it hard enough to have a compact on the pinarello but I need it with 700c wheels
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby Eleri » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:14 pm

Apple wrote:You are both nuts. I bet you are not old, I actually think I saw you Eleri, ( you didn't look old to me) in CT riding with DHCC. I often ride there on Saturday mornings.
There is no way in the world I would swap my 53/39 gear at the front and 11-27 at the back on the 650c wheels. I would lose a lot of my speed, I find it hard enough to have a compact on the pinarello but I need it with 700c wheels


It probably was me, or one of my other short female cycling buddies. We've got quite a collection in the club. I'm the only one with a black bike though I think.
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby Apple » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:29 pm

I should think about joining your group. But I think I am to far away.
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby giwi2 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:40 am

feral grasshopper wrote:
giwi2 wrote:time to post the pick of you and your new bike................


The bike maybe but in the interests of the common sensibilities, I should forever remain a mystery 8)


Ok done deal. Fully assembled 'green machine it is'. i await with bated breath.
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby notwal » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:30 am

No more picys?
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby feral grasshopper » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:09 am

notwal wrote:No more picys?


Soz, I've been slacko (well busy riding BUPA and Vic Alps!), if I can actually remember how to post piccies, I will do so soon, I'm about to take the bike on its first suitcase run to SA for an event in mid Feb so it will be interesting to see if it all goes without a hitch with the debuild and rebuild!

The Rolf Primas by the way, seem to be a really good wheelset, well got me up Hotham mostly on them with minimal walking.... :roll:
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby giwi2 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:31 am

looking forward to the pics
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby feral grasshopper » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:20 pm

giwi2 wrote:looking forward to the pics


here we go at last...... if this works......da dah! here is the Jolly Green Mini, she's rather a pretty little machine 8)

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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby Eleri » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:35 pm

She is pretty! Excellent colour too.

I hadn't notice the lacing pattern of the spokes when I saw it that time on the Audax ride. I like that.
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby Apple » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:33 pm

Eleri wrote:She is pretty! Excellent colour too.

I hadn't notice the lacing pattern of the spokes when I saw it that time on the Audax ride. I like that.

+ 1. I love it. I will send you a pm about the wheels.
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby giwi2 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:49 pm

Great to finally see the bike.

fantastic colour and looks better than i had imagined it.
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby jacks1071 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:37 pm

feral grasshopper wrote:Has anyone ever come across Rolf Prima wheels, any opinions? They look pretty cool...and light!


650C Wheels are not so readily available.

I'm doing a new stock order next week and I have enough pre-orders from Junior riders to be able to import some of the Pro-Lite Bracciano 650 wheelset.

They are the same hubs, rims, spokes etc as our ever popular Bracciano 700C model - just smaller size. 20 spoke front, 24 spoke rear, 1285g for the set and they are a clincher rim.

I'm getting some extra sets to hold but there won't be many spare so I'd thought I'd throw it out there for anyone who wants to pre-order and I will adjust my order to ensure an allocation. PM me if interested or contact me via our website as I don't check this section often.

Anyone who pre-orders will get sub $500 price including delivery. Delivery would be by January 2013 at the latest although hopefully sooner.
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby gururug » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:47 pm

It's good to see 650's becoming more widely available again.

Recently i've run across a few new products.....pro-lite brac650^, a23 rims, kinlin xr300(20/24), hed jet 6/9, some racing tyres. So looks like there is still some demand after a few years of limited options.
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby jacks1071 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:09 pm

gururug wrote:It's good to see 650's becoming more widely available again.

Recently i've run across a few new products.....pro-lite brac650^, a23 rims, kinlin xr300(20/24), hed jet 6/9, some racing tyres. So looks like there is still some demand after a few years of limited options.


I'm surprised they arn't more popular, for shorter people there is so many benefits with running the smaller wheels.

We sell a lot of Pro-Lite's junior race bike called TheOne which comes in two sizes, 24" and 650C. Really that is where the demand for our Bracciano 650 is comming from (junior market).

I'm going to bring in next year a small number of the Pro-Lite Cuneo 650 frameset - it essentially is an Adult 650 frameset made from a high end alloy - weight is around 1kg for the frame. I don't expect there is much market for them but if we can sell a few per year and help some people onto a bike that fits them, then thats good enough for us.
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby ZepinAtor » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:09 am

This is a 650c bike believe it or not. 57cm frame from the 80's. A TT bike from that era apparently & a little bizarre, but makes for nice show piece hanging in our gym room.

Sorry for the thread hyjack. I know this is about petite bikes, but thought I'd post this up as it does have 650 wheels which caught my eye in the thread title.


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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby grasshopper » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:20 pm

jacks1071 wrote:I'm surprised they arn't more popular, for shorter people there is so many benefits with running the smaller wheels.

Not surprising to me, given the number of men in bike shops who suffer a god complex and just know that everyone is made in their image. One told me I should ride 700c cos parts are hard to come by (even when they were fashionable for tri :roll: ). Which amounts to saying I should ride a bike that doesn't fit 365 days a year rather than have trouble with parts 2 days a year. He was about 6ft of course. And another blathering about the tri debate surrounding rolling resistance; he really hadn't grasped the fit issue. Even when some manufacturers offered 650 most shops wouldn't buy them and I know two that struggled to move them. Meanwhile, lots of women were sold bikes too big for them.

And yet I've had two acknowledge 650 recently when they couldn't see my bike :o so there's a ray of hope. :) I know of others who had big investments in 700 wheels so you can understand a reluctance to go 650 if they're borderline, especially when the overwhelming advice is 700-centric. It's an issue with cx because of tyres.

As more women and kids ride, it's good to see people with an open mind and concerned for fit. Will keep it in mind.
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby Eleri » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:46 pm

Indeed, I'll back you up on that one Grasshopper! Much better to have a bike that fits. And really, I don't have any problems at all finding anything 650c. And if I need to borrow a tube, then a 700c can be folded to fit! :-)
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby mylagogo » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:45 pm

They look pretty cool...and light!
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Re: 650c wheels again! Rolf Prima??

Postby Apple » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:22 pm

Eleri wrote:Indeed, I'll back you up on that one Grasshopper! Much better to have a bike that fits. And really, I don't have any problems at all finding anything 650c. And if I need to borrow a tube, then a 700c can be folded to fit! :-)

Add me to that +2
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