New Commuter - Ebike advice before purchase.

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Matt_D
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Re: New Commuter - Ebike advice before purchase.

Postby Matt_D » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:19 pm

Gday Martin.

I have to say it's been a dream run for commuting everyday with the Giant. I scored the very first 2018 model arrival in Brisbane. The power of the Quick E is mind blowing with hills a thing of the past.

Ive seen a few cheaper alternative brand models at my work place and those guys have had a series of issues with theirs. The giant has so many quality components that make the price so worth it. I can safely say it falls within your budget comfortably too...don't think you will pay rrp, there's always plenty of room for movement.

Good luck and make sure you get on as many models as you can for test rides.

Cheers,

Matt

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Re: New Commuter - Ebike advice before purchase.

Postby coolfish » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:32 am

Matt_D wrote:...don't think you will pay rrp, there's always plenty of room for movement.



Interested in this comment. I would never pay sticker price for a car, but I don't know the protocol with bikes. I haven't bought a new one for a decade, and I can't even remember how that went. I may be about to lay down more than I have ever paid before for a bike, a big investment for me, so would be interested to know purchasing/pricing experience from other purchasers.

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Re: New Commuter - Ebike advice before purchase.

Postby Notdoneyet » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:30 pm

NOVISCOTT wrote:G'day Matt,
Congrats on the purchase, looks like a nice commuter rig.

I've recently converted to the E-bike crowd also and while there was some trepidation at the price, I'm really glad I did. I used to commute on my road bike until the M2 was shut. I don't feel comfortable mixing it too much with cars along the back streets on a carbon clipped in. So as a result I stopped riding just about all together. I have young kids and the wife and I both work, so weekends I don't like spending time away from the family on a solo activity.

The E-bike gives me the confidence to get back out there and being a MTB I can jump gutters and switch between paths and road depending on the safest route along the way. It also opens up the bush tracks though Pennant Hills Park / Lave cove NP for a really pleasant ride away from smelly cages. And if I'm running late, it's not too laborious on the open sections of the M2.

The effort an exercise is still there. Not as much as the roadie, but far more than the car or motorbike. And you can push as hard as you like. Afterall, it is still 50-60km and about 2 hours worth of effort.

I went with the Trek Powerfly 5. Brilliant bike, and awesome to take on camping trips for bashing around state forests or National Parks too.

Cheers,
Paul


How are you doing with this bike? Just looking at the same bike my commute is about 65km each way . My road bike is ok but not more than two days a week. Was wandering how the range and ride was on this bike. Cheers Rob

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Re: New Commuter - Ebike advice before purchase.

Postby zebee » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:54 pm

One thing to keep in mind if using an illegal bike: what happens if you have a crash. You crash into someone or they crash into you.

If you have an illegal bike and you know it then it is quite likely that when apportioning blame for insurance purposes you end up with a lot of it. Which means if you get hurt and speed is anything to do with it at all that your payout will be substantially reduced. I quoted the case of a bod in Canberra a while back who was backed into by a car backing recklessly out of a driveway onto the bike path. He was hurt but his illegal bike meant he was considered more to blame than if it had not been illegal.

People focus on being done by the cops. If you aren't being absolutely stupid and showing off in front of the plod that is unlikely. But a crash and the consequences, that's different.

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Re: New Commuter - Ebike advice before purchase.

Postby Thoglette » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:51 pm

zebee wrote: Which means if you get hurt and speed is anything to do with it at all that your payout will be

...zero.

The insurers will run for the hills. Unlicenced motorcycle with an unlicenced rider. No third party injury insurance either*. If you're really unlucky the bureaucracy or minister will decide to "make an example" of you and the book will be thrown your way.

*Actually, if you're really unlucky you'll need long term care but will then fall between the cracks due to the circumstances of your accident.
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Re: New Commuter - Ebike advice before purchase.

Postby NOVISCOTT » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:07 pm

Notdoneyet wrote:
How are you doing with this bike? Just looking at the same bike my commute is about 65km each way . My road bike is ok but not more than two days a week. Was wandering how the range and ride was on this bike. Cheers Rob


G'day Rob,
The bikes great. Though I must confess to riding not as much as I should. It really is bulletproof given the punishment I have put it through and it keeps on going and going. If your commuting 65km each way you will definitely need a charger at work. I can do the return trip in sport mode with all the hills on a charge, which is about 55-60km depending on route. But even knocking it back to Eco I doubt you would get much more than 80-90km. It feels very heavy without assistance so I would hate to have to far on empty.

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Re: New Commuter - Ebike advice before purchase.

Postby Comedian » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:04 pm

I've had an e-bike for a while. It's kind of our extra car that the whole family uses. My observation is Bosch is very reliable.

The rest of the bike should be as simple and reliable as possible. preferably with as many "normal" parts as possible. Buy something with the best warranty service backup you can.

You need to be able to get it looked at easily. If the place you bought it from is taking service bookings 1.5 months out try again.

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Re: New Commuter - Ebike advice before purchase.

Postby Matt_D » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:23 pm

Well I am just coming up on 12 months of commuting on my Giant Quick-E+. Every day - rain hail or shine!

I could push it out to 1 charge per week (~100kms) but I play it safe and charge it after 4 days. I usually stick to ECO for the flats, and Normal for the hills (with HIGH on the crazy steep hills). But I average about 7-8% batter usage each way (~10.2km).

I had my first service a few weeks ago (essentially an early 12-month service). Why a month early? Well it turns out that the bigger the bike (and it's rider!) the more you wear down your hydraulic disc pads. I had this nasty scraping sound coming from the rear wheel. It turns out my pad was back to bare metal! Front pads were ok.

So at least with the early service, they installed new pads. They even remove the gear cassette and chain a give them both diesel bath. They came out like new, and the rest of the bike is fully lubed and re-assembled and quiet as the day I bought it home :)

As I purchased the bike from a Giant store (Tom Wallace) they gave me the $149 silver service for $99 (plus pads). I can highly recommend the annual service if you want to keep your pride and joy in tip top condition.

Just this weekend I have added a cargo rack to the rear (https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/rack-it-metro-e) and combined it with a black steel mesh rear basket that allows me to simply chuck my backpack (not small!) straight in and not worry about fitting all my work clothes / lunch / toiletries etc into a Pannier bag (believe me I spent hours looking at every bag on the market!).

My ride in this morning was beautifully cool. It's the first time in a year's riding that I haven't had a sweaty back. I couldn't do another summer riding everyday with a backpack again.

Anyway, still a very happy customer and I could not say a bad word for the Giant E-Bike.

Cheers,

Matt

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