Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thread)

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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby il padrone » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:40 pm

softy wrote:I do believe all those holes must weaken the structure.

Nup. Not how bicycle protective helmets have ever been designed to work.

They are not designed to protect from crushing of your skull by a two-tonne vehicle. Even my old MSR would not have done that. They are simply impact energy attenuators ie. they absorb the impact of a fall onto a hard surface. The strength of the helmet structure does not matter, as long as it basically stays in one piece.
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby yugyug » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:03 pm

il padrone wrote:
softy wrote:I do believe all those holes must weaken the structure.

Nup. Not how bicycle protective helmets have ever been designed to work.

They are not designed to protect from crushing of your skull by a two-tonne vehicle. Even my old MSR would not have done that. They are simply impact energy attenuators ie. they absorb the impact of a fall onto a hard surface. The strength of the helmet structure does not matter, as long as it basically stays in one piece.


Maybe the extra holes in the ice hockey helmet would have meant it failed the now defunct penetration test? Just guessing.
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby outnabike » Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:45 pm

Just dug out my Rosebank Headway Freeway from 1991. I used it to test cameras ans angles etc. Looking at the label I may have buggered the thing as it says to not modify. :D Sillicone and plastic bolts did the trick.

Rosebank Helmets
http://www.helmets.org/upda9112.htm
Rosebank is another Aussie manufacturer now appearing in the U.S. market for the first time. Those who are familiar only with their venerable Stackhat will be surprised by the upscale look of their new helmets, including soft shell and thin shell models. Their thin shells are constructed of GE's Xenoy thermoplastic, which John Rose, their Managing Director (and another very knowledgeable manufacturer), said was a high quality material which requires some care in the manufacturing process. The helmets shown were all certified to the Australian standard, but do not appear on Snell's list. Mr. Rose informed us that three other Australian states have already joined Queensland and Victoria in mandating helmets, and three more will require them as of January, 1992. His comments brought home the fact that we are years behind the Aussies in bicycle helmet use and bicycle helmet standards.

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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby casual_cyclist » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:14 pm

il padrone wrote:
softy wrote:I do believe all those holes must weaken the structure.

Nup. Not how bicycle protective helmets have ever been designed to work.

They are not designed to protect from crushing of your skull by a two-tonne vehicle. Even my old MSR would not have done that. They are simply impact energy attenuators ie. they absorb the impact of a fall onto a hard surface. The strength of the helmet structure does not matter, as long as it basically stays in one piece.

I can confirm this is how they work in a real world application... of me falling off at moderate speed and striking my helmet on the ground. It would have been a nasty injury if it had been my head but basically the helmet acted as a shock absorber. Of course on the same fall I broke my knee. Maybe helmets for knees should be compulsory too :roll: :lol:
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby Xplora » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:01 am

Knee pads. Makes it easier to beg for your freedom to do as you choose in a free society too.
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby outnabike » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:40 am

[quote="Xplora"]Knee pads. Makes it easier to beg for your freedom to do as you choose in a free society too.[/quote

Hi Xplora
Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen. :)
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby Xplora » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:51 am

Not MHL related in the slightest, but I've noticed a lot of the UK head gear popping up over the last 2 years in my area... it's like no one thought it was acceptable to warm their head before, because the headband/earwarmer things look retarded, but all of a sudden half the damn bunch is wearing them. I started wearing a bandanna, that's about as motivated as I can be bothered with :lol:
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby yugyug » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:57 pm

outnabike wrote:Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen. :)


??? whats that all about? 'scuse my ignorance..
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:38 pm

yugyug wrote:
outnabike wrote:Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen. :)


??? whats that all about? 'scuse my ignorance..

Self deprecating stereotypical humour done amazingly well :D
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby outnabike » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:30 am

yugyug wrote:
outnabike wrote:Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen. :)


??? whats that all about? 'scuse my ignorance..

Sorry yugyug,
Just being an egg and yolking. I never explain my yokes.... :)
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby yugyug » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:35 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
yugyug wrote:
outnabike wrote:Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen. :)


??? whats that all about? 'scuse my ignorance..

Self deprecating stereotypical humour done amazingly well :D


Still not getting it... :cry:

I lived in Berlin for a year and thought I had come to understand that Germans don't actually have a sense of humour, just a very well refined, almost intangible, sense of irony. But this is not that, is it?
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby Xplora » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:09 pm

He's just egging you on, yug ;)
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby yugyug » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:27 pm

Stuff it...

Here's a German joke I heard:

Why don't they sell pharmaceutical products in the rainforest?

Because it's sparsely populated and not economically viable.
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:38 pm

Germans have to be careful around humour...
...whatever the road rules, self-preservation is the absolute priority for a cyclist when mixing it with motorised traffic.
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby mikesbytes » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:53 pm

I noticed that no one had posted in this thread since Thursday, which must be the longest its been inactive. So I open it up and find its gone off topic

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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby softy » Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:17 pm

mikesbytes wrote:I noticed that no one had posted in this thread since Thursday, which must be the longest its been inactive. So I open it up and find its gone off topic

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Are you standing backwards or is your helmet on backwards? :P
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby bychosis » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:12 pm

Looked around so quickly after a near miss that the helmet and shoulders are still facing forward.
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby Xplora » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:06 pm

warthog1 wrote:Well if nothing else the primary MHL thread has gone quiet :mrgreen:

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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby softy » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:34 pm

To be honest, I think it has all been said here.

Do see quite a lot of freestylers around though.

Time to park this thread for awhile, or till something new on th MHL front arises.
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby outnabike » Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:54 am

[quote="Mulger bill"]Germans have to be careful around humour...
He He He
Uncle schcribbler, always laughed at his own jokes. It is the fate of many joker writers.... :)
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby Ken Ho » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:01 pm

yugyug wrote:
outnabike wrote:Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen. :)


??? whats that all about? 'scuse my ignorance..
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Let me help, with another joke.

How many barbers does it take to shave a Germans head ?
Four, one for each side.

Seriously, have you never heard the expression, "box head" ?
The world is becoming a sadly humourless place.

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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby yugyug » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:09 am

Box head. Never heard it before. :/ I'm not sure the it was worth after all that, seeing we could have spent the time ranting about helmets, but thank you, hate being the last one to get a joke : /
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby yugyug » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:13 am

And talking about sad and humourless here's a German knock knock joke.
- ~knockknock~
- Ja. Who's there?
- The police. There's been a terrible accident and your wife is in hospital.

Bump-tssshhh.
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby outnabike » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:37 pm

It gets worse I am half polish as well....But hey, if a Poland person is a Pole, why is not a Holland person called a Hole?
And I don't recall "Boxhead" being used for Germans. "Squarehead" seemed to be the go. :) All good fun.
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Re: Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (Was One & ONLY Helmet Thr

Postby softy » Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:20 pm

Is there a seven second delay....... "beep" function on this forum. :P

I must of got in before the seven seconds. :lol:
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