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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby The Womble » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:05 pm

As much as I like the black jersey, I think that if we increase the back logo size by 1/3, add 'a metre matters' or 'thanks mate'? Below that, and border the black Shoulder and side panels with white strips to show the final design including refective piping, its done bar the sponsors.
So:
1)a metre matters
OR
2)Thanks mate ?
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby notwal » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:29 pm

"Thanks mate" clarifies it nicely and it has the right tone.
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby AUbicycles » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:17 am

Thanks mate is good - does this work well for all drivers?

On the larger arrow - are we talking front or back. On the back I would put make "Thank's Mate" big and readable (lets consider a cyclist who is crouched forward), so arrow top, "Thanks Mate" below.

On the front a duplication of this, though perhaps different sizing / positions, makes sense - this is intended less for the other drivers (they have the back of the jersey).


Can you let me know more on the reflective stripes, I think they would look good.. though need to know if they have limitations in the size. Perhaps best if I get the template from the producer.

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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby The Womble » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:57 am

The supplier can manufacture the jersey as is mate. Ill provide the template though for ya.

The reflectives are just piping so theyd be represented on the jersey as a simple white outline on the borders.

I think keep the full logo as is on the front, but deffo an increase in size and 'thanks mate' as youve described on the back is the go.

http://custom.primalwear.com/designtemplates/Raglan.pdf
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby RobertFrith » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:26 am

For goodness sake :D
Just when it started to look good stuff starts getting added.
Keep the message simple. Don't add "thanks mate". Please. What's next, a smiley face and an exclamation mark?
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby goneriding » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:25 am

+1 to nixing the "thanks mate". I think the "a metre matters" is better and more consistent with the logo.

+1 to also nixing the full stop. Perhaps increasing the gap between the "1" and the "m" might work a bit better.
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby The Womble » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:10 am

Ummm yeah I forgot till I flicked through my notes that Id kinda promised the AGF we would push for a uniform message with 'a metre matters'.
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby biftek » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:28 am

I was all up for buying a jersey , until the mention of advertising/sponsors
I don't like being treated as a walking billboard but for the course i was willing to except the metre message , but now the mention of logo/sponsorship , i will spend my money elsewhere
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby hannos » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:40 am

AUbicycles wrote:Here we go.

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I do not think "Thanks Mate" should be anywhere on the jersey.

I think it's fine as it is. If you have contractual obligations to the AGF to add some of their stuff on it, then by all means, do so.
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby The Womble » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:43 am

biftek wrote:I was all up for buying a jersey , until the mention of advertising/sponsors
I don't like being treated as a walking billboard but for the course i was willing to except the metre message , but now the mention of logo/sponsorship , i will spend my money elsewhere

You dont want to fork out $5k for the initial order either then hey?
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby BrisBoy » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:10 pm

hannos wrote:

I do not think "Thanks Mate" should be anywhere on the jersey.

I think it's fine as it is. If you have contractual obligations to the AGF to add some of their stuff on it, then by all means, do so.


I agree, keep the message as clear and simple as possible. I'd be ok with "a metre matters" but would want it to be subtle enough that it was only really apparent on closer inspection. The point for me would be to have an approaching driver go "hey, look, that's clever, I should leave a metre." :)
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby BrisBoy » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:13 pm

Good on you, by the way, Womble.
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby goneriding » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:47 pm

Thinking of sponsorship I considered how funny it might be to get a car company to be one. When I thought about it a bit more it occurred to me that it might be a very good idea as it adds credence to the message.

Anyone know someone in the auto industry who might be able to help?

Discuss?
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Postby The Womble » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:34 pm

Concidered it but god what an ask
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby The Womble » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:35 pm

Supercheap would secure the Bogan vote :mrgreen:
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby goneriding » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:59 pm

It may well be an ask but I guess we won't know until the ask has been answered. It might get some airplay if it is backed by the Amy Gillet Foundation.

Even better would be to incorporate a device into bikes that alerts the collision systems in the cars that a bike is near.
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Postby Comedian » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:20 pm

goneriding wrote:It may well be an ask but I guess we won't know until the ask has been answered. It might get some airplay if it is backed by the Amy Gillet Foundation.

Even better would be to incorporate a device into bikes that alerts the collision systems in the cars that a bike is near.


What we need is tcas for land transport. That would be cool!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCAS

PS sorry for the hijack :mrgreen:
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby AUbicycles » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:22 pm

Have we completely ditched the "Thanks Mate" and will go for "a metre matters"?

Let me get the design mocked up on the template - do some fine-tuning with Womble and then I will publish here for feedback.

I notice that the producers has their logo on the template 3 times already - we will have to talk to them about presenting the message of the jersey first and then sponsors / supporters second. I can understand the concern about sponsor logos - lets wait it up first. The sponsors certainly allow the cost to be subsidised so more jerseys can get out there.
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby RobertFrith » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:39 pm

AUbicycles wrote:The sponsors certainly allow the cost to be subsidised so more jerseys can get out there.

A few forumites have expressed an interest in buying one. To date I haven't joined them, but I think if a truly-final-no-more-changes-will-be-made version was arrived it it would be reasonable to suggest people put their money where their post is - I'd be happy to prepay for a design I was happy with. Bulk buy schemes have run successfully on BNA in the past.
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby notwal » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:14 pm

BrisBoy wrote:
hannos wrote:

I do not think "Thanks Mate" should be anywhere on the jersey.

I think it's fine as it is. If you have contractual obligations to the AGF to add some of their stuff on it, then by all means, do so.


I agree, keep the message as clear and simple as possible. I'd be ok with "a metre matters" but would want it to be subtle enough that it was only really apparent on closer inspection. The point for me would be to have an approaching driver go "hey, look, that's clever, I should leave a metre." :)

The trouble is the logo will not give the message until you've seen it a few times. It's not enough like a sign.
But graphically its difficult to see how "Thanks mate" or "A metre matters" will be clear enough to mean anything.
I think the best thing to do would be to make the triangle more arrow like.
Do a full size print. Stick it on your back and see if it's not too distorted and in the right spot.

A couple of unambiguous arrows :arrow:
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On the other hand you could just write your blood type in big red letters in washable markers
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby The Womble » Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:33 pm

Quick note.
Jersey design stage is almost complete. Once ready to roll, I will begin taking pre-orders at a cost of $85.00 plus postage.
Will keep you all informed :)
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby aldifan » Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:58 pm

The Yellow and black is good standard warning colours
Think bee.

Bee nice and give me a meter?

Perhaps I should stick to my day job.

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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby CommuRider » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:08 pm

aldifan wrote:The Yellow and black is good standard warning colours
Think bee.

Bee nice and give me a meter?



LOL. Awwwww that's a cute slogan. Busy bee. Yes the design does look very bee-like. You just need to have a couple of antennas and your transformation's complete. Actually, those cyclists wearing their anti-magpie helmet thingamajigs would fit this picture so well. The cyclist as an insect.
Amateur oenologist and green-friendly commuter.
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby biftek » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:56 pm

The Womble wrote:
biftek wrote:I was all up for buying a jersey , until the mention of advertising/sponsors
I don't like being treated as a walking billboard but for the course i was willing to except the metre message , but now the mention of logo/sponsorship , i will spend my money elsewhere

You dont want to fork out $5k for the initial order either then hey?

If it was me wanting to promote my organisation/business thant yes i would be forking up the cash for the initial order, it's the cost of doing business
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Re: safecyclingaustralia.org jersey design finalised ish

Postby The Womble » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:18 pm

since when was this a busniness?
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