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I was going to wait until Chris' return but he hasn't been heard from for days.
So here it is...
Full length zip, reflective piping around shoulders and side panels, simplified message for the challenged, and the size shown is xs so the design will transfer to all sizes.
Please refer to http://www.hotdesigns.com.au/material.htmfor more garment info.
The Avanti sponsorship is still waiting on approval ATM.
Price will be set incl. postage shortly and I'll begin taking pre-orders soon
Well, the jersey looks suitable and is fit for the purpose of what it is trying to fulfill. So you should be pleased that your hard work has paid off. I'd ask if it came in different colours but I believe it has been through BNA testing and scrutiny and what the above design shows is the best compromise.
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Will these be available in bigger sizes (3XL or 4XL) ?
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I really seriously don't want to rain on anyone's parade and I would be the first one to lay some cold hard down if the design was right, so deep breath here we go....what happened??!!??
How does one go from this design (the last one aired on the forum as best I can tell),
which, apart from the unnecessary period, looked good, to this??
It lost the period but gained 3 sponsors (counting the hotdesigns logo on the collar), two extra arrows, a giant "please" on the back and "a metre matters" the chest side.
How much reading do we suppose the average motorist has time to do?
If I'm polite I'd say it's looking a bit like a formula 1 car. If I'm blunt I'd say it's gone down the dog's breakfast road.
1) you possibly had no intention of buying one since its inception so meh. All good. Each to their own hey.
2)one sponsor, one manufacturer logo as with any garment on the market incl. AGF's (whats your point?) and the BNA logo in recognition of Chris' hard work and not paid for, and
3)its message is clearer than the other jersey out there already, and the colors do have a better likelyhood of grabbing someones attention on the move than white and grey. Results mate
Last edited by The Womble on Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
1. I had every intention of buying one. I believe I've made a contribution; I know this is is your baby and I can see that it would be hard not to take offence, but any criticism I've offered has clearly been in pursuit of helping get a great design. I don't have anything to gain by my contribution except the opportunity to wear a great jersey. I can live happily without the flaming so I'll make this my last on the topic
2. Wasn't me that mentioned AGF's. My point is that your original design, once you'd incorporated some good suggestions from the forum was good. Since then you've incorporated some bad suggestions from the forum and three logos that weren't there before. My point is that you can justify them till the cows come home but each addition errodes the simplicity and strength of the original design.
3. Good luck I mean that sincerely
Hi, on the logos, I knew that they were intended however nothing was confirmed / clarified at that stage though I recall it being discussed.
On the logo without a period, I have taken on the popular opinion and discussed and agreed that there was no significant benefit that could squash all criticism.
On the final design - I would prefer that the yellow disappeared on the sides however this is something for womble to look at with the producers. I also recognise a number of differences, a factor is certainly a consistent look between xs and 4xl. That being said - it's back in wombles hands to judge what happens if there is a revision. Member feedback is good to get a general consensus though - keep it coming.
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The only real beef I have with the new design is that it has gone from a nice bright yellow......... to orange..............I hate orange and even knocked back a free one from a local sports store.........and you really need to drop the word PLEASE, as part of a message such as â€œPlease Pass Safelyâ€ you can just get away with it, but under that logo it sucks ........ you might as well say â€œPretty Please".........replace it with "A Metre Matters".
Yes I agree on the colors. The yellow jas gone waaaay too orange. Doesnt help that Im so colorblind. It will be fixed shortly.
And Robert, with what happened last night I never got to editing the edit so I do appologise
look at all roads signs out there , the message is clear and straight to the point , there is no deciphering of the message needed , you need to appeal to the lowest common person and to the people that are blasting past.
What research have you done to the general public that the message on this jersey is clear and understanding?
to most it would just look like a traingle with 1m in it , with please underneath it .
1m? what does that mean 1Male , and with please underneath it , is that implying 1 male please ?
while the message is clear to us on the forum ,you need to make it clear to the motorist blasting past you
It's your baby so of course it is going to be clear to you , a lot more research needs to go into it to get the general publics view on it
+1 Bit different to what was expected, but not bad difference. And I'm assuming the more sponsorship the cheaper it is, so bring on the logos I say.
I'll definitely get one of these, looks great - but in the interest of furthering an opinion, I think making the "please" into "PLEASE -line break- PASS SAFELY" would make things a little clearer... without cramming too much in.
Perhaps you could do 1m1
with the little 1 being a footnote.
Then under the pockets you could write 'Please pass safely guys, you know a metre matters.' A footnote; you could put lots of information in a footnote.
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