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Re: Drunk Disqualified Driver Hits Cyclist - The Entrance NS

Postby CrazyVictorian » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:45 pm

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gorilla monsoon wrote:This is one of those crimes where the correct punishment is yet to be devised

while i'm all in favour of punishment, the real solution is proper support. she is likely an alcoholic, which in turn is frequently a symptom of other treatable mental disorders, such as depression. punishing her is a classic case of attacking the symptom, not the cause. you really need to do both, i think.

She's the alcholic but who ends up suffering in the long run? That's right the cyclist. Throw the book at her
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Re: Drunk Disqualified Driver Hits Cyclist - The Entrance NS

Postby jules21 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:49 pm

CrazyVictorian wrote:She's the alcholic but who ends up suffering in the long run? That's right the cyclist. Throw the book at her

actually, who ends up suffering in the long run is the next person who she hits after we've finished throwing the book at her. it's of little comfort for family members of that person to know that she was previously punished for a previous similar incident. the priority should be to curb her behaviour.
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Re: Drunk Disqualified Driver Hits Cyclist - The Entrance NS

Postby wombatK » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:51 pm

jules21 wrote:the priority should be to curb her behaviour.

Some criminals are incorrigible. Chains or bullets are the only effective therapies.

That doesn't have to be the first therapy offered to them. But it needs to be there as a last resort. Otherwise the crims are in control and laughing in your face.

Is it possible to get disqualified for drunk driving without undertaking to do some rehab ?
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Re: Drunk Disqualified Driver Hits Cyclist - The Entrance NS

Postby il padrone » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:06 pm

Sending drunks to prison is right up there with jailing aboriginal kids in the outback for not wearing a bike helmet and subsequent non-payment of fines :(

It solves no problems - just worsens one or two.
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Drunk Disqualified Driver Hits Cyclist - The Entrance NSW

Postby Max » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:04 pm

il padrone wrote:.. right up there with jailing aboriginal kids in the outback for not wearing a bike helmet and subsequent non-payment of fines :(


Please tell me you're making that up. :(

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Re: Drunk Disqualified Driver Hits Cyclist - The Entrance NS

Postby wombatK » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:25 pm

According to a report in todays Daily Telegraph, the woman was refused bail.

So at least one magistrate has got some sense of the seriousness of her conduct.
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Re: Drunk Disqualified Driver Hits Cyclist - The Entrance NS

Postby CrazyVictorian » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:19 pm

jules21 wrote:
CrazyVictorian wrote:She's the alcholic but who ends up suffering in the long run? That's right the cyclist. Throw the book at her

actually, who ends up suffering in the long run is the next person who she hits after we've finished throwing the book at her. it's of little comfort for family members of that person to know that she was previously punished for a previous similar incident. the priority should be to curb her behaviour.


So your idea of dealing with drunk drivers is AFTER they hit cyclist? That's not really reassuring when i'm out there riding on the roads. By having tougher laws in place and more gruesome media campaigns on cyclist getting hit and the devasting consequences from it, I believe would be a more logical next step. Yes the drunk driver does need to get help, I agree with that but there are always going to be drivers who risk being over the limit and driving, we just have to lower the amount of people who are going to risk it.
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